Even with "just" transitive verbs taking three arguments, it's easy to lose the plot in natural languages like English. The idea that it wouldn't happen in unma

Even with "just" transitive verbs taking three arguments, it's easy to lose the plot in natural languages like English. The idea that it wouldn't happen in unmarked sentences with two more seems absurd to me. They found some natural relationships that happened to have five members and they had five vowels, so the whole FA series came from that. Also the SE series only seems speakable for se/te. Beyond that, I think it would be a head-scratcher in English. I also think even if people are getting fluent in Lojban, they're unlikely to be gracefully handling free word order scenarios where the selbri shows up not in position 2. Are there SOV-speakers producing SOV-ish shaped Lojban and everybody is getting along fine? If you look at the official cmavo list above, FA and SE account for five words each, so ten of the 1000 in the list. Of course, they're pretty productive as prefixes too, so more than that. But I think part of what makes it complex is that there are so many of everything... forethought and afterthought of all the connectives; differently typed connectives for combining sumti, selbri, bridi; the non-obligatory tense/aspect/mood system that accounts for probably at least 40 particles; etc. It's a neat language. There's a lot of neat stuff in it. I'm sure it's fun to be able to speak and understand it. I guess mainly I think it doesn't speak to your innate language facility's strengths, so I doubt it can be done realtime as a language, as specified. It can clearly be done with our reasoning faculties. Maybe that's enough.