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There is one other commonality amongst "deniers" that NewScientist missed, and it's one that's especially prevalent on sites like HackerNews and Reddit. Let's c
by thaumaturgy 16y ago
There is one other commonality amongst "deniers" that NewScientist missed, and it's one that's especially prevalent on sites like HackerNews and Reddit. Let's call it "transference of expertise".
That is, you get a group of self-described experts together, and then ask them to critically analyze some aspect of a field in which they have no expertise at all, and they'll attempt to apply their expertise in the unrelated field.
For example, "I am a programmer, so I understand systems, and everything is a system..." Well, yes, but only in the most superfluous way: that a "system" is a network of causes and effects. Otherwise, programming has very little to do with, say, quantum mechanics, or with global ecology.
This even happens between sub-fields of expertise; I happen to personally know more physicists than the average person, and they have the same tendency to try to apply their expertise in one particular sub-field of physics to some other field in which they have no specific knowledge.
For yet another example, there's Zed Shaw's "Programmers need to learn statistics or I will fucking kill them" article from sometime back. There you have a field that is only slightly mathematical in nature, and because of that, many of the people with enough expertise in it believe that they know "enough" math. Except, they don't.
It seems to be terribly hard for someone who is an expert at anything to admit that they aren't an expert at everything.
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- MichaelSalib 16y agoYet another example is the Salem Conjecture which notes that a large fraction of creationists with advanced degrees are engineers. Obviously, if you understand differential equations and studied heat transfer, you're perfectly well equipped to assess genomics and microphysiology! See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_hypothesis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_hypothesis
- DilipJ 16y agoThe engineers in question are probably Chemical Engineers. If my college experience was any indication, Chem Engineers are some of the most right-wing people you'll ever meet. I guess it's because a lot of them go into the petroleum industry, and since they don't want to bite the hands that feed them, they end up swallowing the entire conservative ideology (including skepticism towards evolution).
- starkfist 16y agoI've worked with loads of highly religious Christians, Jews and Muslims in web startups, both in the Bay Area and NYC. Chem Engineers are right-wing, though. Just wanted to point out that it's not just them...
- grandinj 16y agoGiven any large group people, a large fraction of the people with advanced degrees will be engineers. This is independent of the group itself. The more interesting question is, "does the fraction of engineers exceed the population fraction"?