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> but unfortunately that's unrealistic. Why is it unrealistic? Hollywood just needs to be pushed harder. It worked for music no?

zabuni 10y ago
It worked for music because they were stupid enough to put all their eggs in one basket, iTunes and iPods, and then got screwed when Apple wanted to sell electronics more than music and wouldn't raise their prices. Movies aren't in the same situation. Movies are a great deal more fractured, and they will remain fractured. The movie studios will not let Netflix turn into the iTunes for movies.
TeMPOraL 10y ago
Did it? I have a feeling we're about to see more DRM with music. All the pieces are falling into place. Files get replaced with streaming (which is to files what a service is to a product), and I wonder how long it will take before more companies will follow Apple's suit by ditching the audio jack. Going full digital there will enable companies to set up fully DRMed path from memory to speakers/headphones, like they did with video.
- mschuster91 10y ago
  > to set up fully DRMed path from memory to speakers/headphones Unlike with video, where the signal ends up unencrypted only on the very last chip in the chain, namely the one that drives the (I'm taking a guess here!) thousands of pixel lines, this is not practical with audio signals - you can always intercept and easily record the signal in analog form, either right before the PA stage or if this does not work (because the D/A converter and PA are implemented on one chip) after the PA output. The signal will of course be affected by the PA frequency characteristics, but that can be compensated for - and you still get a perfect audio signal. Also, I highly doubt that professional/semi-professional home theater setups will ever ship with "smart" (i.e. more wires than just the +/- heavy-gauge, direct speaker power signal wires) speakers, so you get the analog hole right there, on the output matrix of the amp.
  - bubblethink 10y ago
    The battle isn't about recording the decoded stream. Even with video, all forms of HDCP have been broken. It's about getting it before it's decoded.

zabuni 10y ago

It worked for music because they were stupid enough to put all their eggs in one basket, iTunes and iPods, and then got screwed when Apple wanted to sell electronics more than music and wouldn't raise their prices. Movies aren't in the same situation. Movies are a great deal more fractured, and they will remain fractured. The movie studios will not let Netflix turn into the iTunes for movies.

TeMPOraL 10y ago

Did it? I have a feeling we're about to see more DRM with music. All the pieces are falling into place. Files get replaced with streaming (which is to files what a service is to a product), and I wonder how long it will take before more companies will follow Apple's suit by ditching the audio jack. Going full digital there will enable companies to set up fully DRMed path from memory to speakers/headphones, like they did with video.

mschuster91 10y ago
> to set up fully DRMed path from memory to speakers/headphones Unlike with video, where the signal ends up unencrypted only on the very last chip in the chain, namely the one that drives the (I'm taking a guess here!) thousands of pixel lines, this is not practical with audio signals - you can always intercept and easily record the signal in analog form, either right before the PA stage or if this does not work (because the D/A converter and PA are implemented on one chip) after the PA output. The signal will of course be affected by the PA frequency characteristics, but that can be compensated for - and you still get a perfect audio signal. Also, I highly doubt that professional/semi-professional home theater setups will ever ship with "smart" (i.e. more wires than just the +/- heavy-gauge, direct speaker power signal wires) speakers, so you get the analog hole right there, on the output matrix of the amp.
- bubblethink 10y ago
  The battle isn't about recording the decoded stream. Even with video, all forms of HDCP have been broken. It's about getting it before it's decoded.