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OpenSuSE uses btrfs by default and relies on it for one of it's killer features. Before a system change, such as installing updates, changing services configur

OpenSuSE uses btrfs by default and relies on it for one of it's killer features. Before a system change, such as installing updates, changing services configuration, etc, is made using YaST, snapper takes a snapshot of the root filesystem. If something breaks, just roll back to the previous working state. I'd say that for the OpenSuSE folks, btrfs falls squarely into the "good enough" category.

StillBored 10y ago
I'm a big opensuse fan, but none of my opensuse machines are running btrfs.. Although, besides the stability (which can't really be much worse than ext4/xfs which is what I apparently choose on the two machines) I think what drove me nuts about opensuse's use of btrfs was all the subvolumes. Which are cool, but just another thing for me to deal with, and my computing theory for the past few years can be summarized by "KISS, unless its really hurting".
binarycrusader 10y ago
FWIW, Solaris has been providing similar upgrade safety via ZFS since 2008.
- Mister_Snuggles 10y ago
  Sadly, I got out of the Solaris game a couple of years before ZFS became a thing. I'm using ZFS on FreeBSD though, I quite like it.
  - binarycrusader 10y ago
    Yes, FreeBSD adopted the same command Solaris has for boot environment management -- see the beadm man page.
- JdeBP 10y ago
  Yes, operating systems other than OpenSUSE have this feature. TrueOS (formerly PC-BSD) has had it for some years, too. * https://blog.pcbsd.org/2012/07/9-1-feature-multiple-boot-environments/ https://blog.pcbsd.org/2012/07/9-1-feature-multiple-boot-env... * https://blog.pcbsd.org/2013/06/pc-bsd-status-update/ https://blog.pcbsd.org/2013/06/pc-bsd-status-update/ * https://www.ixsystems.com/blog/a-closer-look-at-the-changes-in-pc-bsd-trueos-9-2-part-1/ https://www.ixsystems.com/blog/a-closer-look-at-the-changes-... * https://www.ixsystems.com/blog/the-revamped-life-preserver/ https://www.ixsystems.com/blog/the-revamped-life-preserver/

StillBored 10y ago

I'm a big opensuse fan, but none of my opensuse machines are running btrfs.. Although, besides the stability (which can't really be much worse than ext4/xfs which is what I apparently choose on the two machines) I think what drove me nuts about opensuse's use of btrfs was all the subvolumes. Which are cool, but just another thing for me to deal with, and my computing theory for the past few years can be summarized by "KISS, unless its really hurting".

binarycrusader 10y ago

FWIW, Solaris has been providing similar upgrade safety via ZFS since 2008.

Mister_Snuggles 10y ago
Sadly, I got out of the Solaris game a couple of years before ZFS became a thing. I'm using ZFS on FreeBSD though, I quite like it.
- binarycrusader 10y ago
  Yes, FreeBSD adopted the same command Solaris has for boot environment management -- see the beadm man page.
JdeBP 10y ago
Yes, operating systems other than OpenSUSE have this feature. TrueOS (formerly PC-BSD) has had it for some years, too. * https://blog.pcbsd.org/2012/07/9-1-feature-multiple-boot-environments/ https://blog.pcbsd.org/2012/07/9-1-feature-multiple-boot-env... * https://blog.pcbsd.org/2013/06/pc-bsd-status-update/ https://blog.pcbsd.org/2013/06/pc-bsd-status-update/ * https://www.ixsystems.com/blog/a-closer-look-at-the-changes-in-pc-bsd-trueos-9-2-part-1/ https://www.ixsystems.com/blog/a-closer-look-at-the-changes-... * https://www.ixsystems.com/blog/the-revamped-life-preserver/ https://www.ixsystems.com/blog/the-revamped-life-preserver/