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“Yes. STL is not object-oriented. I think that object orientedness is almost as much of a hoax as Artificial Intelligence.“ Is hoax a placeholder for "hype" or

• sqeaky 10y ago
  That confused me too, both clearly work unless there is some definition of work that excludes things which have earned many people many billions of dollars. Hoaxes don't create sustainable businesses.
  • zwieback 10y ago
    The quote is probably 20 years old now, at the time people were pretty disillusioned about AI and OO was a craze. Stepanov had other ideas. Here's more context: http://www.stlport.org/resources/StepanovUSA.html http://www.stlport.org/resources/StepanovUSA.html
    • sqeaky 10y ago
      That makes way more sense, the article should have indicated it was using an out of date topical quote.
      • sampo 10y ago
        Who knows, maybe he still feels the same way?
  • _delirium 10y ago
    If you're thinking of the recent boom in machine learning specifically, there are plenty of people in ML, even people making lots of money from it, who think the concept of "artificial intelligence" is a recurring hoax, or at best an overselling aimed at people who've read more sci-fi than science. Of course plenty of people think otherwise, too, but it's not a rare view within the field.
    • sqeaky 10y ago
      This is another way of thinking about I had not originally thought of, thank you.
• emmelaich 10y ago
  STL is clearly expressly not object oriented and is actually orthogonal to object oriented.
  • pjmlp 10y ago
    Algorithms, no. Data structures and allocators, surely yes.