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I don't think that's true. Gary Vee has said things like that in the past but more recently said he devotes weekends to family, sleeps more, and vacations more[

I don't think that's true. Gary Vee has said things like that in the past but more recently said he devotes weekends to family, sleeps more, and vacations more[0]. Tim Ferris literally got famous from a book titled "The 4 Hour Work-week". Mark Cuban is frankly on a different level (the 3 comma club really is different IMO). Hustle and grind are traits not mutually exclusive from being healthy. I'll go so far as to posit that most highly successful entrepreneurs (I'm talking big, high-growth companies here) end up sacrificing at least one of the following: sleep, free time, relationships, starting a family, or general health. The real question is–between the success and the sacrifice–which one causes the other? [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw2ShSnO72w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw2ShSnO72w

kristianc 10y ago
Everything I've seen from GaryVee recently has been along the lines of "you're not doing enough work." Last week he told someone who took a weekend off that that was more time than he had taken off for his entire twenties. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRj144Gd7EA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRj144Gd7EA
- justboxing 10y ago
  Thanks so much for this video. Not a millennial, but I got a lot out of it. Especially this part where he checks the Millennial caller with something that I too am guilty of from time to time. > So you are playing a fake narrative instead of putting in the actual work that's needed to actually pull it off. > Wishing instead of Executing.
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- tertius 10y ago
  And that's true for the vast majority of people. They're not working hard enough.
- petercooper 10y ago
  Everything I've seen from GaryVee recently has been along the lines of "you're not doing enough work." More specifically he says you're probably not working enough if you're running some sort of personal narrative that you're all that business-wise or ever going to be a multi-millionaire/whatever. He frequently says that sort of life is not for everyone and people who are happy doing a dayjob and devoting their time to personal pursuits should be envied. But if you want to be chasing the beasts of big money and big business and be all about being the big-I-am, you better be working long and hard.
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- Swizec 10y ago
  Keyword: "his entire twenties" I don't know where I read it, but I like the idea of life stages. When you're in your 20's, hustle and grind and work a lot. You will never have as few obligations and as much energy as you do when you're young. Take advantage of youth. But if you're a 40-something with 3 kids and spend 16 hours a day grinding and working, and no time spending time with your family ... don't. Slow down. A lot of GaryVee's advice is aimed at people who have few responsibilities and obligations in life and spend 5 hours every day watching TV or playing video games and complain that success doesn't come. Yeah, obviously it doesn't. Work harder. If you're already working harder, you're not GaryVee's audience. How do you even have time to watch his stuff? ;)
- robmaister 10y ago
  Having consumed a decent amount of his content, there's a bit of context to this - if you're complaining about not being successful as an entrepreneur, you're not doing enough work. He has said before that if you want to work 9-5 and find good work-life balance, then that's great and you should do that and that there's nothing wrong with it. I honestly don't believe that he took less than a weekend off during his entire twenties. The way that statement comes across to me is hyperbole used to drive home the main point of "stop complaining and trying to look successful, and start working". At ~12:50 he also says "it's okay to enjoy a little bit now too" and that the advice he'd give to himself at 25 is "go have fun". He tends to provide more realistic advice than a lot of other people who produce this type of content, at least from what I've seen.
vivekd 10y ago
And the lord said "I desire mercy not sacrifice" It's only human to believe that things can only be achieved with sacrifice and that great things require great sacrifice. It was this mentality that led our ancestors to sacrifice animals and even human beings at ancient altars. | But rationally we can see that sacrifice is not always needs and that a good idea and good implementation and a vision for improving the world in some way can go much further than sacrifice and sacrifice alone without good ideas and good implementation will amount to nothing. I'm not saying that maybe some extra work and sacrifice won't be needed but sacrifice shouldn't be thought of as an a-priori essential or even necessary element to success.
- tertius 10y ago
  The line you're quoting "I desire mercy not sacrifice" does not mean what you think it means. Sacrifice in that context is essentially apologizing for sinning. Not giving something up so that you gain something else. Unless you count giving up sin to gain something... It's not a good thing. The sister verse to that is "To obey is better than sacrifice". To your point, sacrificing self-indulgence is really sacrificing addiction. Rather do something productive and worthwhile. And that may be quality time with your family or helping a non-profit etc.
  - vivekd 10y ago
    The verse was used twice, once in Hosea 6 and the other in Matthew 9. Hosea 6 clearly refers to burnt sacrificial offerings like killing animals. consider the full context: "I desire steadfast love and not sacrifice, the knowledge of God rather than burnt offerings." Matthew 9:13 just quotes the verse in Hosea and talks more about loving others and being merciful to those who are sinning: “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice.’ For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.” Apologizing for sinning (ie. repentence) remains an essential part of Christian doctrine and the bible
    - tertius 10y ago
      I didn't assume Christianity or Judaism on your part. Though, it's less likely for a Jew to mistake sacrifice (for atonement) to forgoing things to be able to do other things. But "sacrificing things" to work harder is still not the context of either. I don't really understand the reason for your reply.

kristianc 10y ago

Everything I've seen from GaryVee recently has been along the lines of "you're not doing enough work." Last week he told someone who took a weekend off that that was more time than he had taken off for his entire twenties. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRj144Gd7EA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRj144Gd7EA

justboxing 10y ago
Thanks so much for this video. Not a millennial, but I got a lot out of it. Especially this part where he checks the Millennial caller with something that I too am guilty of from time to time. > So you are playing a fake narrative instead of putting in the actual work that's needed to actually pull it off. > Wishing instead of Executing.
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tertius 10y ago
And that's true for the vast majority of people. They're not working hard enough.
petercooper 10y ago
Everything I've seen from GaryVee recently has been along the lines of "you're not doing enough work." More specifically he says you're probably not working enough if you're running some sort of personal narrative that you're all that business-wise or ever going to be a multi-millionaire/whatever. He frequently says that sort of life is not for everyone and people who are happy doing a dayjob and devoting their time to personal pursuits should be envied. But if you want to be chasing the beasts of big money and big business and be all about being the big-I-am, you better be working long and hard.
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Swizec 10y ago
Keyword: "his entire twenties" I don't know where I read it, but I like the idea of life stages. When you're in your 20's, hustle and grind and work a lot. You will never have as few obligations and as much energy as you do when you're young. Take advantage of youth. But if you're a 40-something with 3 kids and spend 16 hours a day grinding and working, and no time spending time with your family ... don't. Slow down. A lot of GaryVee's advice is aimed at people who have few responsibilities and obligations in life and spend 5 hours every day watching TV or playing video games and complain that success doesn't come. Yeah, obviously it doesn't. Work harder. If you're already working harder, you're not GaryVee's audience. How do you even have time to watch his stuff? ;)
robmaister 10y ago
Having consumed a decent amount of his content, there's a bit of context to this - if you're complaining about not being successful as an entrepreneur, you're not doing enough work. He has said before that if you want to work 9-5 and find good work-life balance, then that's great and you should do that and that there's nothing wrong with it. I honestly don't believe that he took less than a weekend off during his entire twenties. The way that statement comes across to me is hyperbole used to drive home the main point of "stop complaining and trying to look successful, and start working". At ~12:50 he also says "it's okay to enjoy a little bit now too" and that the advice he'd give to himself at 25 is "go have fun". He tends to provide more realistic advice than a lot of other people who produce this type of content, at least from what I've seen.

vivekd 10y ago

And the lord said "I desire mercy not sacrifice" It's only human to believe that things can only be achieved with sacrifice and that great things require great sacrifice. It was this mentality that led our ancestors to sacrifice animals and even human beings at ancient altars. | But rationally we can see that sacrifice is not always needs and that a good idea and good implementation and a vision for improving the world in some way can go much further than sacrifice and sacrifice alone without good ideas and good implementation will amount to nothing. I'm not saying that maybe some extra work and sacrifice won't be needed but sacrifice shouldn't be thought of as an a-priori essential or even necessary element to success.

tertius 10y ago
The line you're quoting "I desire mercy not sacrifice" does not mean what you think it means. Sacrifice in that context is essentially apologizing for sinning. Not giving something up so that you gain something else. Unless you count giving up sin to gain something... It's not a good thing. The sister verse to that is "To obey is better than sacrifice". To your point, sacrificing self-indulgence is really sacrificing addiction. Rather do something productive and worthwhile. And that may be quality time with your family or helping a non-profit etc.
- vivekd 10y ago
  The verse was used twice, once in Hosea 6 and the other in Matthew 9. Hosea 6 clearly refers to burnt sacrificial offerings like killing animals. consider the full context: "I desire steadfast love and not sacrifice, the knowledge of God rather than burnt offerings." Matthew 9:13 just quotes the verse in Hosea and talks more about loving others and being merciful to those who are sinning: “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice.’ For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.” Apologizing for sinning (ie. repentence) remains an essential part of Christian doctrine and the bible
  - tertius 10y ago
    I didn't assume Christianity or Judaism on your part. Though, it's less likely for a Jew to mistake sacrifice (for atonement) to forgoing things to be able to do other things. But "sacrificing things" to work harder is still not the context of either. I don't really understand the reason for your reply.