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Gnome 3.24 (with Night Light) Released

65 points by zbraniecki 10y ago

davexunit 10y ago
I like and use GNOME but Flatpak is a big step backwards in GNU/Linux application deployment. Stick to your distros, folks!
- bratsche 10y ago
  Why do you think so?
- snuxoll 10y ago
  I'm not overly fond of Flatpak, but it at least puts us in a much better place than Docker does.
  - willtim 10y ago
    There is a third way, nix and NixOS.
    - davexunit 10y ago
      Also Guix and GuixSD, which is what I help develop.
- zbraniecki 10y ago
  Why do you think it is a step backwards?
zegerjan 10y ago
Used Gnome for a while now, like it a lot. However, at times it feels quite bloated and that the bloat will mean some apps don't get attention they should. Night light is nice, though. Will try it as soon as it hit the repositories on Arch.
NoGravitas 10y ago
Note: the reason we need Night Light to be in Gnome is because since the move to Wayland, it can't be done by an external application like it used to be under X; it has to be done by the Wayland compositor. I'm looking forward to using this in Fedora 26. One of the major things that broke for me in Fedora 25 was Redshift.
- abrowne 10y ago
  Recent versions of Sway, the i3-compatible Wayland compositor, work with a patched Redshift: https://github.com/SirCmpwn/sway/releases/tag/0.12 https://github.com/SirCmpwn/sway/releases/tag/0.12
- divingdeer 10y ago
  There is a Gnome Shell extension that works with Wayland: https://fedoramagazine.org/safe-eyes-redshift/ https://fedoramagazine.org/safe-eyes-redshift/
sscarduzio 10y ago
Personal wet dream: Gnome on MacOS. I candidly ignore why is this so difficult to achieve.
- bokchoi 10y ago
  It's been a while since I've tried it since feels too awkward in practice, but there is this: https://trac.macports.org/wiki/GNOME https://trac.macports.org/wiki/GNOME
pc2g4d 10y ago
A recipes app as part of a desktop environment? Feels like a loss of focus to me.
- mruszczyk 10y ago
  If you look at why the application was built I would say it's not as silly as it sounds. It was built as a fun side project for GNOMEs 20th anniversary and was used to test starting a project using GNOME Builder. https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2016/12/02/gnome-loves-to-cook/ https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2016/12/02/gnome-loves-to-co... I doubt it's something they took a serious amount of time on.

65 points by zbraniecki 10y ago

I like and use GNOME but Flatpak is a big step backwards in GNU/Linux application deployment. Stick to your distros, folks!

bratsche 10y ago
Why do you think so?
snuxoll 10y ago
I'm not overly fond of Flatpak, but it at least puts us in a much better place than Docker does.
- willtim 10y ago
  There is a third way, nix and NixOS.
  - davexunit 10y ago
    Also Guix and GuixSD, which is what I help develop.
zbraniecki 10y ago
Why do you think it is a step backwards?

zegerjan 10y ago

Used Gnome for a while now, like it a lot. However, at times it feels quite bloated and that the bloat will mean some apps don't get attention they should. Night light is nice, though. Will try it as soon as it hit the repositories on Arch.

NoGravitas 10y ago

Note: the reason we need Night Light to be in Gnome is because since the move to Wayland, it can't be done by an external application like it used to be under X; it has to be done by the Wayland compositor. I'm looking forward to using this in Fedora 26. One of the major things that broke for me in Fedora 25 was Redshift.

abrowne 10y ago
Recent versions of Sway, the i3-compatible Wayland compositor, work with a patched Redshift: https://github.com/SirCmpwn/sway/releases/tag/0.12 https://github.com/SirCmpwn/sway/releases/tag/0.12
divingdeer 10y ago
There is a Gnome Shell extension that works with Wayland: https://fedoramagazine.org/safe-eyes-redshift/ https://fedoramagazine.org/safe-eyes-redshift/

sscarduzio 10y ago

Personal wet dream: Gnome on MacOS. I candidly ignore why is this so difficult to achieve.

bokchoi 10y ago
It's been a while since I've tried it since feels too awkward in practice, but there is this: https://trac.macports.org/wiki/GNOME https://trac.macports.org/wiki/GNOME

pc2g4d 10y ago

A recipes app as part of a desktop environment? Feels like a loss of focus to me.

mruszczyk 10y ago
If you look at why the application was built I would say it's not as silly as it sounds. It was built as a fun side project for GNOMEs 20th anniversary and was used to test starting a project using GNOME Builder. https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2016/12/02/gnome-loves-to-cook/ https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2016/12/02/gnome-loves-to-co... I doubt it's something they took a serious amount of time on.