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What you want is security, but what you ask for is a login page. Sorry if I didn't make it clear enough, but all I want is: 1. the ability to add, change, or
by edw519 16y ago
What you want is security, but what you ask for is a login page.
Sorry if I didn't make it clear enough, but all I want is:
1. the ability to add, change, or delete my any of my data at any time
2. the ability to share my data with exactly whom I want, no more, no less
OP guarantees neither (and, refreshingly, admits it). In fact, "We'll try our best to preserve your data, but no guarantees" and "not very secure at all" were his words, not mine. I was responding to his disclaimer, not my interpretation of his site's security.
[FWIW, I use ramamia by hner's jasonlbaptiste and markbao, which has a great and appropriate implementation of unique id. But then again, I'm less concerned about the security of my family reunion plan than of my business plan.]
- gizmo 16y agoI know you want to do (1) and (2), but my point is that you're not getting that from the other web 2.0 apps either. When you delete data perhaps only a is_deleted flag gets toggled in a database, and copies of your work may reside in backups for months or even years. When you want to share your data you want to be reasonably certain the app is secure, but there is no way for you to determine if this is the case. I'm saying that a very simple system with very obvious security implications may be preferable to a complex system. It's easy to get Open Auth wrong, it's easy to get logins wrong, and so on. Many apps will give you that login form and the share and delete buttons but chances are you would shudder at the thought of using the app if you knew what the backend looks like. About those remarks on the page. The first one, "We'll try our best to preserve your data", is the best you can hope for in any situation, and the second remark that the website isn't very secure at all is also truthful given that it doesn't even use SSL. So to reiterate, login forms on an app may make you feel more secure, but it won't bring you any closer to what you want.
- edw519 16y ago"We'll try our best to preserve your data", is the best you can hope for in any situation If that's the best my customers could hope for, then I'd be broke. I absolutely guarantee the integrity of my customers' data. To anyone who doesn't, I ask, "Why not?"
- aarongough 16y agoBecause giving an absolute guarantee of anything is impossible?
- gizmo 16y agoOf course, I said this in the context of a free app that's still in beta! Maintaining data integrity during worst case scenarios is difficult, even when you have the budget and expertise for it. Especially if you offer real guarantees to your customers you should know that it's completely unreasonable to expect the same from a proof of concept web 2.0 app.