This view is often taken, especially historically, that complicated/expensive things to figure out wouldn't exist without such protection. The problem with thi

This view is often taken, especially historically, that complicated/expensive things to figure out wouldn't exist without such protection. The problem with this line of thought, which can and often-has been true in specific instances... is that protection outcome will always need to be the case, and always remain the case, and that the funder-of-creators get to decide that. Often something complicated/expensive to think about and solve for one group, is easy and obvious to others. Especially over time and with other out-of-bound advances applied. Comedic routines would still exist for example, if people repeated other people's jokes/sets. Granted that would be copyright in that case... but the logic applies there also, and we have the same challenge and arguments, by people who insist there would not be nice things without the protection to justify the cost of the outcome generation method.