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Good to know that despite the ridiculous amount of anti-bill sentiment from the voters, the Conservative government is going to try and ram it through anyway.

Good to know that despite the ridiculous amount of anti-bill sentiment from the voters, the Conservative government is going to try and ram it through anyway. Ahh voting, what is it good for.

RyanMcGreal 16y ago
The Conservatives held this big, broad public outreach campaign looking for community input. They got lots of really constructive feedback on finding a sensible balance between the rights of content creators and the rights of content purchasers. Apparently Industry Minister Tony Clement advocated internally (inside the Conservative Party) for a bill that respected the public outreach process, but Heritage Minister James Moore was pushing to reintroduce the original bill that had provoked such public outrage. They couldn't come to an agreement, so the PMO put its foot down and went with the original bill.
- mrcharles 16y ago
  Thus, what is it good for? The point was the Conservatives probably never did care about the public view. It was something they were legally obliged to do and that was it.
redstripe 16y ago
Unfortunately it's good for nothing in this case since the Liberals have similar aspirations (and I say that as a liberal voter). The two parties differ on crime/environment/tax issues, but when it comes to pandering to big business they are both the same. I've been thinking about setting up a social site where youth voters who generally don't vote could be convinced that their vote could actually count in some of the swing ridings. In this minority parliament maybe we could scare the parties into actually considering the will of the voters.
- mrcharles 16y ago
  That's not a bad idea, but I believe people have tried something similar and run in to legal problems. If your site can be viewed as coercing a vote, it'll get shut down by elections canada. Power to you though, a site where people can enter where they live and be told if their vote matters might be an interesting proposition.
  - nkassis 16y ago
    Well what about a site that has polls with young voters about issues such as this and provide some "neutral" resources such as wikipedia about these issues. With enough participation it could have weight. (I'm also Canadian and would like to participate, let me know if ever get it started.)
    - pedalpete 16y ago
      I've actually been building this over the last few days. Hoping to get a tester out later in the week to gauge interest.
- mclin 16y ago
  Have you seen this? It's an attack on vote splitting, suggesting to you which candidate has the best chance of beating the conservatives. A much more elaborate version was available for the last election. http://www.voteforclimate.ca/en/map.php http://www.voteforclimate.ca/en/map.php
  - redstripe 16y ago
    No I haven't seen that, Thanks. That was the general idea I had in mind. Obviously they weren't too effective, but that could be for a variety of reasons, so I'm not discouraged.
ergo98 16y ago
>Ahh voting, what is it good for. Given that the Conservatives, at least you can be comforted in knowing that it won't pass Parliament. Right?

Good to know that despite the ridiculous amount of anti-bill sentiment from the voters, the Conservative government is going to try and ram it through anyway. Ahh voting, what is it good for.

RyanMcGreal 16y ago

The Conservatives held this big, broad public outreach campaign looking for community input. They got lots of really constructive feedback on finding a sensible balance between the rights of content creators and the rights of content purchasers. Apparently Industry Minister Tony Clement advocated internally (inside the Conservative Party) for a bill that respected the public outreach process, but Heritage Minister James Moore was pushing to reintroduce the original bill that had provoked such public outrage. They couldn't come to an agreement, so the PMO put its foot down and went with the original bill.

mrcharles 16y ago
Thus, what is it good for? The point was the Conservatives probably never did care about the public view. It was something they were legally obliged to do and that was it.

redstripe 16y ago

Unfortunately it's good for nothing in this case since the Liberals have similar aspirations (and I say that as a liberal voter). The two parties differ on crime/environment/tax issues, but when it comes to pandering to big business they are both the same. I've been thinking about setting up a social site where youth voters who generally don't vote could be convinced that their vote could actually count in some of the swing ridings. In this minority parliament maybe we could scare the parties into actually considering the will of the voters.

mrcharles 16y ago
That's not a bad idea, but I believe people have tried something similar and run in to legal problems. If your site can be viewed as coercing a vote, it'll get shut down by elections canada. Power to you though, a site where people can enter where they live and be told if their vote matters might be an interesting proposition.
- nkassis 16y ago
  Well what about a site that has polls with young voters about issues such as this and provide some "neutral" resources such as wikipedia about these issues. With enough participation it could have weight. (I'm also Canadian and would like to participate, let me know if ever get it started.)
  - pedalpete 16y ago
    I've actually been building this over the last few days. Hoping to get a tester out later in the week to gauge interest.
mclin 16y ago
Have you seen this? It's an attack on vote splitting, suggesting to you which candidate has the best chance of beating the conservatives. A much more elaborate version was available for the last election. http://www.voteforclimate.ca/en/map.php http://www.voteforclimate.ca/en/map.php
- redstripe 16y ago
  No I haven't seen that, Thanks. That was the general idea I had in mind. Obviously they weren't too effective, but that could be for a variety of reasons, so I'm not discouraged.

ergo98 16y ago

>Ahh voting, what is it good for. Given that the Conservatives, at least you can be comforted in knowing that it won't pass Parliament. Right?