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I just bought a house, and I will say, I'm glad I had a realtor guiding us. Because I am the buyer I had to pay her nothing, she just gets her 3% - 6% on the sa

I just bought a house, and I will say, I'm glad I had a realtor guiding us. Because I am the buyer I had to pay her nothing, she just gets her 3% - 6% on the sale, and honestly I have no idea what that number is. The seller pays. That being said when I sell, I definitely do not plan on using a realtor. As you said, it's super easy to sell online and I agree. I even found the house I bought without the realtor, we literally just said "we want to see this house." What she did provide was insight into the market, the area, she showed us comparable houses, explained the history of the builder, etc. This is where she brought value. In selling a house, the only value they bring is customers. That usually (car sales, medical sales, etc.) is a percentage of sale type of transaction. So, to me it appears fair to give them a percentage. If you choose not to use them, you can! Unfortunately, I believe in the state I am moving to I am required to pay for the buyers realtor (although I am not 100% sure). That's typically 6%, but technically, I don't have to sell to them. Sooooo I can negotiate and work with them to get say 3%.

mahyarm 10y ago
That 3% that the seller 'pays' for is really yourself paying for it. You could probably negotiate that fee away if you didnt have a realtor on your side for example
- lettergram 10y ago
  Probably, but I did play super hard ball in negotiations with the builder. Without the realtor as the intermediary, I think we would have paid more. Basically, the realtor provided a barrier between the builder and my wife who super loved the property. The realtor also had a relationship with the builder, so when I asked the builder to do X, I got a response super quick at 11:30 at night. Don't underestimate the value of having connections. FYI my house appraised at like 10% higher than I purchased it, so we did get a deal.
- avn2109 10y ago
  >> "Because I am the buyer I had to pay her nothing... the seller pays..." This is literally the second most breathtakingly naive comment I've ever read on the internet.
  - lettergram 10y ago
    As I pointed out in a seperate comment... If I am willing to pay Y for an item, regardless of who is involved in the transaction then it doesn't matter if a percentage is taken. i.e. if Y = Y x 0.97 + Y x 0.03, who cares? Now you might say I could have negotiated that 3% off, and I'd argue that's probably not true. I seriously lowballed the builder on the sale, the only reason I think I got it was the relationship the builder had with the realtor. The builder has incentive to give a discount to a realtor, as he has 50 other houses he has to sell. She also has an incentive because the quicker she can get me to buy a house, the less she has to show, i.e. the more she makes per hour. All of this isn't exactly explicit, but in my case, the realtor and I discussed this. It was actually quite refreshing and definitely worked in my benefit as I picked up my house for around 10%+ less than the people around me. The realtor was similarly happy because I only took around a day of her time, and the builder was happy because he was in serious need of cash flow.
    - clarky07 10y ago
      > builder was happy because he was in serious need of cash flow. You can't imagine a world where that was more important to him accepting your offer than the realtor bringing the offer to him? > The realtor was similarly happy because I only took around a day of her time So, for a single day you paid maybe 6-15k or so (guessing 200-500k house * 3%). Don't you think maybe that's a bit much?
zardo 10y ago
>Because I am the buyer I had to pay her nothing, she just gets her 3% - 6% on the sale. Because you're the buyer, you pay for everything. You're the only one who brought money to the deal.

mahyarm 10y ago

That 3% that the seller 'pays' for is really yourself paying for it. You could probably negotiate that fee away if you didnt have a realtor on your side for example

lettergram 10y ago
Probably, but I did play super hard ball in negotiations with the builder. Without the realtor as the intermediary, I think we would have paid more. Basically, the realtor provided a barrier between the builder and my wife who super loved the property. The realtor also had a relationship with the builder, so when I asked the builder to do X, I got a response super quick at 11:30 at night. Don't underestimate the value of having connections. FYI my house appraised at like 10% higher than I purchased it, so we did get a deal.
avn2109 10y ago
>> "Because I am the buyer I had to pay her nothing... the seller pays..." This is literally the second most breathtakingly naive comment I've ever read on the internet.
- lettergram 10y ago
  As I pointed out in a seperate comment... If I am willing to pay Y for an item, regardless of who is involved in the transaction then it doesn't matter if a percentage is taken. i.e. if Y = Y x 0.97 + Y x 0.03, who cares? Now you might say I could have negotiated that 3% off, and I'd argue that's probably not true. I seriously lowballed the builder on the sale, the only reason I think I got it was the relationship the builder had with the realtor. The builder has incentive to give a discount to a realtor, as he has 50 other houses he has to sell. She also has an incentive because the quicker she can get me to buy a house, the less she has to show, i.e. the more she makes per hour. All of this isn't exactly explicit, but in my case, the realtor and I discussed this. It was actually quite refreshing and definitely worked in my benefit as I picked up my house for around 10%+ less than the people around me. The realtor was similarly happy because I only took around a day of her time, and the builder was happy because he was in serious need of cash flow.
  - clarky07 10y ago
    > builder was happy because he was in serious need of cash flow. You can't imagine a world where that was more important to him accepting your offer than the realtor bringing the offer to him? > The realtor was similarly happy because I only took around a day of her time So, for a single day you paid maybe 6-15k or so (guessing 200-500k house * 3%). Don't you think maybe that's a bit much?

zardo 10y ago

>Because I am the buyer I had to pay her nothing, she just gets her 3% - 6% on the sale. Because you're the buyer, you pay for everything. You're the only one who brought money to the deal.