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When you sort by date it automatically groups them by today, yesterday, last week, etc. which is fine, but then within those grouping they are not sorted by dat

by gmarx 10y ago

When you sort by date it automatically groups them by today, yesterday, last week, etc. which is fine, but then within those grouping they are not sorted by date/time

coldtea 10y ago
What you call "sort by date" is not sort by date, it's called "arrangement" and is a grouping (hence the various groups shown). The reason why the items are not sorted by date inside the groups, is because you have some other column selected as the sort column (e.g. the name, size, or whatever is the default). You can click the "Date Modified", "Date created" or any date column you want, and then the items will be both grouped by date (into the groups you see, today, yesterday, last week, etc) AND sorted by date within the groups. The finder could force it so that it always sorts by the item you selected to group by with, but this is more flexible.
- gmarx 10y ago
  Oh. Ok. Thanks!
  - mmjaa 10y ago
    Certainly doesn't solve your problem to know this, though, does it? I for one cannot fathom how this sorting arrangement is of use to anyone, personally ..
    - coldtea 10y ago
      >Certainly doesn't solve your problem to know this, though, does it? Of course it does, since now they can click on the date column inside a group, and get the order they want for that group, in addition to the overall grouping into buckets based on date ranges. >* I for one cannot fathom how this sorting arrangement is of use to anyone, personally ..* Well, if I just wanted "show everything sorted by date" I could have done it in list view. Grouped (arrangement) view shows the data in groups. What one might want the grouping to be and what the order to be inside the groups is not necessarily (if ever) the same. E.g. if I want to look at files of a certain naming scheme that I created last week, I could set to arrange the finder items by date (so I get I nice "past week" group, today group, month group etc) and see the items inside sorted by name. If I want the items in the groups sorted by date too -- I can just as easily. If Finder could only use the same column to form groups that it uses to sort inside the group I couldn't do that. This is the most flexible way -- and analogous to what all and any database systems offer, where group by column is not necessarily the same as the order by column.

by gmarx 10y ago

When you sort by date it automatically groups them by today, yesterday, last week, etc. which is fine, but then within those grouping they are not sorted by date/time

coldtea 10y ago

What you call "sort by date" is not sort by date, it's called "arrangement" and is a grouping (hence the various groups shown). The reason why the items are not sorted by date inside the groups, is because you have some other column selected as the sort column (e.g. the name, size, or whatever is the default). You can click the "Date Modified", "Date created" or any date column you want, and then the items will be both grouped by date (into the groups you see, today, yesterday, last week, etc) AND sorted by date within the groups. The finder could force it so that it always sorts by the item you selected to group by with, but this is more flexible.

gmarx 10y ago
Oh. Ok. Thanks!
- mmjaa 10y ago
  Certainly doesn't solve your problem to know this, though, does it? I for one cannot fathom how this sorting arrangement is of use to anyone, personally ..
  - coldtea 10y ago
    >Certainly doesn't solve your problem to know this, though, does it? Of course it does, since now they can click on the date column inside a group, and get the order they want for that group, in addition to the overall grouping into buckets based on date ranges. >* I for one cannot fathom how this sorting arrangement is of use to anyone, personally ..* Well, if I just wanted "show everything sorted by date" I could have done it in list view. Grouped (arrangement) view shows the data in groups. What one might want the grouping to be and what the order to be inside the groups is not necessarily (if ever) the same. E.g. if I want to look at files of a certain naming scheme that I created last week, I could set to arrange the finder items by date (so I get I nice "past week" group, today group, month group etc) and see the items inside sorted by name. If I want the items in the groups sorted by date too -- I can just as easily. If Finder could only use the same column to form groups that it uses to sort inside the group I couldn't do that. This is the most flexible way -- and analogous to what all and any database systems offer, where group by column is not necessarily the same as the order by column.