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I was really struggling to understand the point of this, but your comment made it click, it isn't actually about tracking, it's all head games. That's really me

by orclev 10y ago

I was really struggling to understand the point of this, but your comment made it click, it isn't actually about tracking, it's all head games. That's really messed up, but I guess considering the sorts of people that would be involved in something like this I shouldn't be surprised.

M_Grey 10y ago
Exactly, it's all about breaking people so they won't even try to fight or escape. Drugs, abuse (physical and psychological torture really), and simply killing the ones who don't perform. It's... unbelievably brutal, and the only ways to fight it are education, and probably a legal framework and oversight for prostitution.
- toomuchtodo 10y ago
  And brutal punishments for those who are found guilty of human trafficking.
  - _nalply 10y ago
    Won't help. It's a populist request, but a majority of experts, the criminologists, are convinced that the death penalty for example is not a deterrent. A source (one of many): http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/study-88-criminologists-do-not-believe-death-penalty-effective-deterrent http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/study-88-criminologists-do-n...
    - mgarfias 10y ago
      Devils Advocate here (I don’t personally believe in the state run death penalty): Maybe its not about deterrent as it is getting an abhorrent person out of society permanently?
      - _nalply 10y ago
        Acknowledged. I come back with a pointer to the trolley problem: Should someone act to kill the perpetrator to save a number of people from being killed by the perpetrator in the future?
      - gambiting 10y ago
        The argument against that is that lifetime imprisonment serves the exact same goal, and gets rid of the nasty issue of killing people who are found innocent 20 years later, as it sometimes happens. If I recall correctly, the process of actually executing the death penalty is so expensive it's not even cheaper than lifetime imprisonment anyway.
    - Retric 10y ago
      Humans have been becoming dramatically less violent over time. So, it may act as evolutionary pressure even if it's not as useful right now.

by orclev 10y ago

M_Grey 10y ago

Exactly, it's all about breaking people so they won't even try to fight or escape. Drugs, abuse (physical and psychological torture really), and simply killing the ones who don't perform. It's... unbelievably brutal, and the only ways to fight it are education, and probably a legal framework and oversight for prostitution.

toomuchtodo 10y ago
And brutal punishments for those who are found guilty of human trafficking.
- _nalply 10y ago
  Won't help. It's a populist request, but a majority of experts, the criminologists, are convinced that the death penalty for example is not a deterrent. A source (one of many): http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/study-88-criminologists-do-not-believe-death-penalty-effective-deterrent http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/study-88-criminologists-do-n...
  - mgarfias 10y ago
    Devils Advocate here (I don’t personally believe in the state run death penalty): Maybe its not about deterrent as it is getting an abhorrent person out of society permanently?
    - _nalply 10y ago
      Acknowledged. I come back with a pointer to the trolley problem: Should someone act to kill the perpetrator to save a number of people from being killed by the perpetrator in the future?
    - gambiting 10y ago
      The argument against that is that lifetime imprisonment serves the exact same goal, and gets rid of the nasty issue of killing people who are found innocent 20 years later, as it sometimes happens. If I recall correctly, the process of actually executing the death penalty is so expensive it's not even cheaper than lifetime imprisonment anyway.
  - Retric 10y ago
    Humans have been becoming dramatically less violent over time. So, it may act as evolutionary pressure even if it's not as useful right now.