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People who just want funding don't work on things like the LHC. If you want to solve a problem while someone is throwing money at you, then you work in defense.

by M_Grey 10y ago

People who just want funding don't work on things like the LHC. If you want to solve a problem while someone is throwing money at you, then you work in defense. You shouldn't be so quick to harshly judge people who are making the choice to explore the edges of what we can achieve rather than make a quick buck developing the best new way to kill someone.

jamesdwilson 10y ago
right right. i am just totally making up this thing where research and results are forged, driven by state grants.
- TheOtherHobbes 10y ago
  Yes you are. Do you really think no one would have noticed if the Standard Model was - as you call it - a forgery?
  - jamesdwilson 10y ago
    http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/scientists-replicated-100-psychology-studies-and-fewer-half-got-same-results-180956426/ http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/scientists-repl... http://www.nature.com/news/over-half-of-psychology-studies-fail-reproducibility-test-1.18248 http://www.nature.com/news/over-half-of-psychology-studies-f... http://www.nature.com/news/science-journalism-can-be-evidence-based-compelling-and-wrong-1.21591 http://www.nature.com/news/science-journalism-can-be-evidenc... 40,000 scientific papers invalidated. - https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2017/03/14/scandal-mri-brain-imaging-completely-unreliable/ https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2017/03/14/scandal-mri-br... http://nautil.us/blog/we-should-not-accept-scientific-results-that-have-not-been-repeated http://nautil.us/blog/we-should-not-accept-scientific-result... http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21588069-scientific-research-has-changed-world-now-it-needs-change-itself-how-science-goes-wrong http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21588069-scientific-re... https://explorable.com/research-grant-funding https://explorable.com/research-grant-funding - "Let's start by saying money does matter. It matters in every sector including science. Even if the researcher has a pure love of the scientific method, given the right circumstances, such as pride or the right amount of money, there may be some consideration given to skewing the data or holding back on publishing results for a little longer than they should." http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21588057-scientists-think-science-self-correcting-alarming-degree-it-not-trouble http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21588057-scientists-t... https://www.theguardian.com/science/2012/sep/13/scientific-research-fraud-bad-practice https://www.theguardian.com/science/2012/sep/13/scientific-r...
    - krylon 10y ago
      I hope you do not need to have the difference between psychology and physics explained to you. Also, does any of this refer to the Standard Model specifically?
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- krylon 10y ago
  Thank God that never happens in the free market. /s
  - jamesdwilson 10y ago
    not helping the argument

by M_Grey 10y ago

jamesdwilson 10y ago

right right. i am just totally making up this thing where research and results are forged, driven by state grants.

TheOtherHobbes 10y ago
Yes you are. Do you really think no one would have noticed if the Standard Model was - as you call it - a forgery?
- jamesdwilson 10y ago
  http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/scientists-replicated-100-psychology-studies-and-fewer-half-got-same-results-180956426/ http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/scientists-repl... http://www.nature.com/news/over-half-of-psychology-studies-fail-reproducibility-test-1.18248 http://www.nature.com/news/over-half-of-psychology-studies-f... http://www.nature.com/news/science-journalism-can-be-evidence-based-compelling-and-wrong-1.21591 http://www.nature.com/news/science-journalism-can-be-evidenc... 40,000 scientific papers invalidated. - https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2017/03/14/scandal-mri-brain-imaging-completely-unreliable/ https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2017/03/14/scandal-mri-br... http://nautil.us/blog/we-should-not-accept-scientific-results-that-have-not-been-repeated http://nautil.us/blog/we-should-not-accept-scientific-result... http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21588069-scientific-research-has-changed-world-now-it-needs-change-itself-how-science-goes-wrong http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21588069-scientific-re... https://explorable.com/research-grant-funding https://explorable.com/research-grant-funding - "Let's start by saying money does matter. It matters in every sector including science. Even if the researcher has a pure love of the scientific method, given the right circumstances, such as pride or the right amount of money, there may be some consideration given to skewing the data or holding back on publishing results for a little longer than they should." http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21588057-scientists-think-science-self-correcting-alarming-degree-it-not-trouble http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21588057-scientists-t... https://www.theguardian.com/science/2012/sep/13/scientific-research-fraud-bad-practice https://www.theguardian.com/science/2012/sep/13/scientific-r...
  - krylon 10y ago
    I hope you do not need to have the difference between psychology and physics explained to you. Also, does any of this refer to the Standard Model specifically?
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krylon 10y ago
Thank God that never happens in the free market. /s
- jamesdwilson 10y ago
  not helping the argument