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>so any one client 'firing' you is suddenly not a huge thing With 3 months notice and strong union protection (public sector) it already isn't. I'd much rathe

>so any one client 'firing' you is suddenly not a huge thing With 3 months notice and strong union protection (public sector) it already isn't. I'd much rather work for a single excellent organisation where I know I'm doing good than many who can't hold on to good staff and need contractors.

lsaferite 10y ago
I'd love those protections personally, but I have no such luck.
- toomuchtodo 10y ago
  Always Be Interviewing.
- nso 10y ago
  It's minimum requirement for a hire contract in Norway. 3 months mutual notification, and only in a few cases can you be fired on spot without compensation (theft and such). You can contractually increase the notification time from the baseline, but not decrease. Makes for happy and productive workers, and also benefits companies who don't have to worry about loosing their best worker without notice.
  - lsaferite 10y ago
    I think I read Norway just moved into #1 happiest country in the world...
  - tigershark 10y ago
    3 months notice period seems a very bad deal to me. If you want to change job you simply cannot because no one would wait for 3 months, unless you are at executive level.
    - dozzie 10y ago
      Yes, they would wait. Everybody else in the setting does. And then there probably is a way to shorten the notice period when both sides agree (I extrapolate to Norway how in my country it works).
      - CalRobert 10y ago
        I was shocked to see that a month of notice is common here (Ireland). It actually was an issue when I wanted to attend a conference for my new employer (gave notice around 11 PM exactly 30 days before I had to fly). I get that it's apparently an employee protection but it does seem kind of ludicrous. What happens if you rage quit? Win the lottery?
        Dayshine 10y ago
        >What happens if you rage quit? Win the lottery? Well, I'm a professional, so I finish my job... I shouldn't be changing job more than once every 2 years, so 3 months is nothing. The notice period is often reduced for the first 6 months, or you can ask for that before signing your contract. In reality a company has no real desire to keep a disgruntled employee longer than they have to, so you can burn bridges and leave earlier if force the issue. It's a pretty unprofessional thing to do though.
        CalRobert 10y ago
        Well sure, I think the difference is between what's courteous and what's contractually stipulated. It's rude to give short or no notice regardless, but it's not always a contractual obligation.
    - Jare 10y ago
      If everyone is the same situation then that delay becomes just a normal aspect of the hiring process. I'd be more concerned about the types of abuses that the delay could allow in countries with a less mature employment culture: backing off at the last minute and wasting 3 months of that company's time, bullying a leaver for all of 3 months to discourage other people, etc.

lsaferite 10y ago

I'd love those protections personally, but I have no such luck.

toomuchtodo 10y ago
Always Be Interviewing.
nso 10y ago
It's minimum requirement for a hire contract in Norway. 3 months mutual notification, and only in a few cases can you be fired on spot without compensation (theft and such). You can contractually increase the notification time from the baseline, but not decrease. Makes for happy and productive workers, and also benefits companies who don't have to worry about loosing their best worker without notice.
- lsaferite 10y ago
  I think I read Norway just moved into #1 happiest country in the world...
- tigershark 10y ago
  3 months notice period seems a very bad deal to me. If you want to change job you simply cannot because no one would wait for 3 months, unless you are at executive level.
  - dozzie 10y ago
    Yes, they would wait. Everybody else in the setting does. And then there probably is a way to shorten the notice period when both sides agree (I extrapolate to Norway how in my country it works).
    - CalRobert 10y ago
      I was shocked to see that a month of notice is common here (Ireland). It actually was an issue when I wanted to attend a conference for my new employer (gave notice around 11 PM exactly 30 days before I had to fly). I get that it's apparently an employee protection but it does seem kind of ludicrous. What happens if you rage quit? Win the lottery?
      - Dayshine 10y ago
        >What happens if you rage quit? Win the lottery? Well, I'm a professional, so I finish my job... I shouldn't be changing job more than once every 2 years, so 3 months is nothing. The notice period is often reduced for the first 6 months, or you can ask for that before signing your contract. In reality a company has no real desire to keep a disgruntled employee longer than they have to, so you can burn bridges and leave earlier if force the issue. It's a pretty unprofessional thing to do though.
        CalRobert 10y ago
        Well sure, I think the difference is between what's courteous and what's contractually stipulated. It's rude to give short or no notice regardless, but it's not always a contractual obligation.
  - Jare 10y ago
    If everyone is the same situation then that delay becomes just a normal aspect of the hiring process. I'd be more concerned about the types of abuses that the delay could allow in countries with a less mature employment culture: backing off at the last minute and wasting 3 months of that company's time, bullying a leaver for all of 3 months to discourage other people, etc.