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> So, they have taken a group of homosexuals, without any history of leadership, and asked a group to rate how they would do as CEO based on voice only. The gro

> So, they have taken a group of homosexuals, without any history of leadership, and asked a group to rate how they would do as CEO based on voice only. The group answered based on sound alone that those individuals were not CEO material. Forgive me for asking this, but the article is currently unavailable due to 503. Did they describe at all the group who did the rating and choosing? I would think that if the goal was to identify whether or not homosexuals are barred from senior corporate leadership positions, they'd want to test groups of people who actually evaluate people for suitability in senior corporate leadership positions. As opposed to average people who only know CEOs from television, and thus could only evaluate whether someone fits the Hollywood stereotype of what a CEO is.

Raphmedia 10y ago
"Participants were recruited online through students’ contacts at a large Italian university. In Study 1a, the final sample consisted of 81 participants (37 males, Mage = 21.89 years, SD = 3.73). This sample was obtained after excluding participants who self-identified as non-heterosexuals (n = 9) or who had reported technical problems (n = 5) from the 95 participants who had completed the survey. In Study 2a, participants were recruited through students’ contacts using a snowball procedure and provided with the link to an online survey. The final sample consisted of 63 participants (35 males and 28 females; Mage = 26.57 years, SD = 5.59). From the initial sample of 117 participants who had access to the survey, we excluded those who identified as non-heterosexual (n = 9), reported technical problems (n = 13), failed to complete the survey (n = 15), or did not correctly recall the job vacancy (n = 17). In Study 2b, groups of students were tested simultaneously in the same room. Each participant individually completed an online survey using headphones. The final sample consisted of 92 participants (3 males and 89 females, Mage = 19.45 years, SD = 1.39). From the initial sample of 152 participants, we excluded those who identified as non-heterosexual (n = 8), reported technical problems (n = 15), or failed to correctly recall the job vacancy (n = 23)." https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-017-0962-0 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-017-0962-0
- thehardsphere 10y ago
  Ok, so the study actually tells us nothing about whether actual gay people are being discriminated against in employment as corporate executives. Instead, it tells us whether millenial Italians who have never had to think about employing a corporate executive, think that random gay people off the street fit their perception of who would make a good CEO. I guess if you were going to do a first-pass to even see if people could be discriminated against for "sounding gay" it wouldn't be so bad but extrapolating any further than that seems like a big stretch.
  - Raphmedia 10y ago
    This was my problem with the article. The study is alright, it doesn't draw any extreme conclusion. The article's title is horrible. "Gay men and lesbian women less likely to be employed in a leadership position" ... really?

Raphmedia 10y ago

"Participants were recruited online through students’ contacts at a large Italian university. In Study 1a, the final sample consisted of 81 participants (37 males, Mage = 21.89 years, SD = 3.73). This sample was obtained after excluding participants who self-identified as non-heterosexuals (n = 9) or who had reported technical problems (n = 5) from the 95 participants who had completed the survey. In Study 2a, participants were recruited through students’ contacts using a snowball procedure and provided with the link to an online survey. The final sample consisted of 63 participants (35 males and 28 females; Mage = 26.57 years, SD = 5.59). From the initial sample of 117 participants who had access to the survey, we excluded those who identified as non-heterosexual (n = 9), reported technical problems (n = 13), failed to complete the survey (n = 15), or did not correctly recall the job vacancy (n = 17). In Study 2b, groups of students were tested simultaneously in the same room. Each participant individually completed an online survey using headphones. The final sample consisted of 92 participants (3 males and 89 females, Mage = 19.45 years, SD = 1.39). From the initial sample of 152 participants, we excluded those who identified as non-heterosexual (n = 8), reported technical problems (n = 15), or failed to correctly recall the job vacancy (n = 23)." https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-017-0962-0 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-017-0962-0

thehardsphere 10y ago
Ok, so the study actually tells us nothing about whether actual gay people are being discriminated against in employment as corporate executives. Instead, it tells us whether millenial Italians who have never had to think about employing a corporate executive, think that random gay people off the street fit their perception of who would make a good CEO. I guess if you were going to do a first-pass to even see if people could be discriminated against for "sounding gay" it wouldn't be so bad but extrapolating any further than that seems like a big stretch.
- Raphmedia 10y ago
  This was my problem with the article. The study is alright, it doesn't draw any extreme conclusion. The article's title is horrible. "Gay men and lesbian women less likely to be employed in a leadership position" ... really?