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The article mentions a hand being ripped off because a guy looped the rope around his... I'm not sure you want to loop it around your waist.

by vacri 10y ago

Someone 10y ago
I don't think pilom is arguing looping the rope around your hand; he's arguing to zig-zag the rope a bit so that he force pulling on it tried pulling it through your fingers (pinkie first), perpendicular to the direction of the rope, instead of parallel to it, so that it can slide out of your fingers. I am not sure that works with tug of war ropes, though, as they, given the forces used, are too thick to allow for that zig-zaggy bend. I certainly don't see it in photos on http://www.tug-of-war.org.uk/towtactics.htm http://www.tug-of-war.org.uk/towtactics.htm
- kenbellows 10y ago
  He was referencing this statement from the GP: "Looped around a waist and the same person can get up to about 1.0-1.5x with cleats on turf." Point is, if tug-of-war players have been known to lose hands because the rope was wrapped around them, do you really want to see what happens when you wrap it around your waist? Maybe it's safer because your body is much thicker than your wrist, but is that really an experiment you want to run?
  - fr0sty 10y ago
    > do you really want to see what happens when you wrap it around your waist? The last player on each end can safely wrap the rope around themselves if they like. The rope behind them is slack, so the only tension on the rope is the tension they put on it themselves. Where people get into trouble is when they are somewhere in the middle where there is (significant)tension being applied to their section of rope by people on either side.
    - swsieber 10y ago
      No, not even then - in the article is mentioned the anchors being pulled through (the rest of the people) and getting lacerations
    - pilom 10y ago
      This is exactly what I was referencing, in the wikipedia page you can see a 1904 olympic competition where the anchor man has safely wrapped the rope partially around his waist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tug_of_war#/media/File:1904_tug_of_war.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tug_of_war#/media/File:1904_tu...
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The article mentions a hand being ripped off because a guy looped the rope around his... I'm not sure you want to loop it around your waist.

by vacri 10y ago

The article mentions a hand being ripped off because a guy looped the rope around his... I'm not sure you want to loop it around your waist.

Someone 10y ago

I don't think pilom is arguing looping the rope around your hand; he's arguing to zig-zag the rope a bit so that he force pulling on it tried pulling it through your fingers (pinkie first), perpendicular to the direction of the rope, instead of parallel to it, so that it can slide out of your fingers. I am not sure that works with tug of war ropes, though, as they, given the forces used, are too thick to allow for that zig-zaggy bend. I certainly don't see it in photos on http://www.tug-of-war.org.uk/towtactics.htm http://www.tug-of-war.org.uk/towtactics.htm

kenbellows 10y ago
He was referencing this statement from the GP: "Looped around a waist and the same person can get up to about 1.0-1.5x with cleats on turf." Point is, if tug-of-war players have been known to lose hands because the rope was wrapped around them, do you really want to see what happens when you wrap it around your waist? Maybe it's safer because your body is much thicker than your wrist, but is that really an experiment you want to run?
- fr0sty 10y ago
  > do you really want to see what happens when you wrap it around your waist? The last player on each end can safely wrap the rope around themselves if they like. The rope behind them is slack, so the only tension on the rope is the tension they put on it themselves. Where people get into trouble is when they are somewhere in the middle where there is (significant)tension being applied to their section of rope by people on either side.
  - swsieber 10y ago
    No, not even then - in the article is mentioned the anchors being pulled through (the rest of the people) and getting lacerations
  - pilom 10y ago
    This is exactly what I was referencing, in the wikipedia page you can see a 1904 olympic competition where the anchor man has safely wrapped the rope partially around his waist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tug_of_war#/media/File:1904_tug_of_war.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tug_of_war#/media/File:1904_tu...
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