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I wonder if most films can even be considered art under some of the definitions being used. Is Michael Bay's Transformers art? Was _The Phantom Menace_ art? Th

I wonder if most films can even be considered art under some of the definitions being used. Is Michael Bay's Transformers art? Was _The Phantom Menace_ art? There are video games that are completely "on the rails", effective interactive movies that provide little choice. Some of these are basically like modern art exhibits that invite people to walk through and interact with sculptures or animatronics, only it's virtual, instead of physically real. I have seen kids cry over the writing in Undertale. Games like Journey, The Last Of Us, Firewatch, the Bioshock series, either provoke emotion, or thought. There are indie games that let you experience what it's like to have a child with cancer, or be a subsistence farmer in a developing country, transformative experiences that IMHO are more powerful than static art. Art doesn't always have to be abstract, photojournalism can be deeply artistic, merely by capturing perspective on the world that are real, but ignored. Virtual reality experiences in games could extend that to actually allowing people to experience what it is like from the perspective of the photojournalist, or those affected. This could have greater impact on one's thoughts than just visiting a museum and looking at paintings or pictures removed from context. I'm willing to bet that this whole argument is swept under the rug in one or two decades, when a new generation of artists who are extremely digitally savvy supplant the current establishment, and new forms of media will eventually come to be seen as art.

Tossrock 10y ago
If you were to read the article, you would see that your initial question is covered: "So, what does the tasteful, expert connoisseur Roger Ebert have to say about the relationship between the cinema and art? Just this: “Hardly any movies are art.” Here’s what the late Pauline Kael wrote about the relationship between movies and art. Listen carefully. “There is so much talk now about the art of the film that we may be in danger of forgetting that most of the movies we enjoy are not works of art ... Movies are so rarely great art, that if we cannot appreciate great trash, we have very little reason to be interested in them.” So, here we have two of the world’s most highly-regarded film critics, sadly assuring us that most movies are not great art."

Tossrock 10y ago

If you were to read the article, you would see that your initial question is covered: "So, what does the tasteful, expert connoisseur Roger Ebert have to say about the relationship between the cinema and art? Just this: “Hardly any movies are art.” Here’s what the late Pauline Kael wrote about the relationship between movies and art. Listen carefully. “There is so much talk now about the art of the film that we may be in danger of forgetting that most of the movies we enjoy are not works of art ... Movies are so rarely great art, that if we cannot appreciate great trash, we have very little reason to be interested in them.” So, here we have two of the world’s most highly-regarded film critics, sadly assuring us that most movies are not great art."