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This isn't true at all. I had a TS-SCI and was aircrew. I got diagnosed with "Depressive Disorder Not Otherwise Specified" after a SINGLE visit to the base psyc

by pram 10y ago

This isn't true at all. I had a TS-SCI and was aircrew. I got diagnosed with "Depressive Disorder Not Otherwise Specified" after a SINGLE visit to the base psychiatrist and was permanently taken off of flight duty. It literally ruined my career and I basically had to beg for an early discharge.

AndrewKemendo 10y ago
Either someone fucked up really badly (happens with everything from time to time) or this isn't the whole story. If nothing else because no Mental Health professional would give a formal diagnosis for DD-NOS after one visit. I know cause I was given that along with a host of others after years of visits to Military Mental Health - so I'm no stranger to the system. Your SCI doesn't apparently relate to this story as you were made DNIF and nothing else according to you. Did you get read off SCI? I'm not saying that people don't get fucked, but there are as many people that have been DNIF or separated for things like arthritis in the pinky toe (yes I know someone that happened to) or some kind of funky random thing that wouldn't otherwise be an issue.
- pram 10y ago
  Being put on permanent DNIF and being removed from my AFSC (into 'Awaiting Retraining-Reasons Beyond Control') obviously removed my reason for having an SCI. Talk about pedantry. I was diagnosed with depression and 'avoidant personality disorder' after one visit, yes. I had to attend many therapist sessions afterwards, it wasn't my only one. The psychiatrist was a USAF officer. I have no reason to lie about this 10 years later on Hacker News.
- pram 10y ago
  My point is: I was fed the line about 'just get help it won't hurt blah blah' by people like you and it turned out to be lies. It isn't and wasn't good advice. The stigma exists for a reason.
  - AndrewKemendo 10y ago
    It's no different than the other terrible advice of "Don't go to sick call cause [insert bad outcome]." At the end of the day whatever problem you have, physical or mental, is going to come out and be worse in left untreated. 99.9% of people in high stakes military jobs who seek treatment will have no adverse impacts on their career from seeking mental health treatment. I don't know enough about your case to make any further comment but the plural of anecdote isn't data.
    - pram 10y ago
      Your fake statistic isn't data either lol.
      - AndrewKemendo 10y ago
        No argument there.

by pram 10y ago

AndrewKemendo 10y ago

Either someone fucked up really badly (happens with everything from time to time) or this isn't the whole story. If nothing else because no Mental Health professional would give a formal diagnosis for DD-NOS after one visit. I know cause I was given that along with a host of others after years of visits to Military Mental Health - so I'm no stranger to the system. Your SCI doesn't apparently relate to this story as you were made DNIF and nothing else according to you. Did you get read off SCI? I'm not saying that people don't get fucked, but there are as many people that have been DNIF or separated for things like arthritis in the pinky toe (yes I know someone that happened to) or some kind of funky random thing that wouldn't otherwise be an issue.

pram 10y ago
Being put on permanent DNIF and being removed from my AFSC (into 'Awaiting Retraining-Reasons Beyond Control') obviously removed my reason for having an SCI. Talk about pedantry. I was diagnosed with depression and 'avoidant personality disorder' after one visit, yes. I had to attend many therapist sessions afterwards, it wasn't my only one. The psychiatrist was a USAF officer. I have no reason to lie about this 10 years later on Hacker News.
pram 10y ago
My point is: I was fed the line about 'just get help it won't hurt blah blah' by people like you and it turned out to be lies. It isn't and wasn't good advice. The stigma exists for a reason.
- AndrewKemendo 10y ago
  It's no different than the other terrible advice of "Don't go to sick call cause [insert bad outcome]." At the end of the day whatever problem you have, physical or mental, is going to come out and be worse in left untreated. 99.9% of people in high stakes military jobs who seek treatment will have no adverse impacts on their career from seeking mental health treatment. I don't know enough about your case to make any further comment but the plural of anecdote isn't data.
  - pram 10y ago
    Your fake statistic isn't data either lol.
    - AndrewKemendo 10y ago
      No argument there.