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My brain doesn't want to move my body around. If my body enjoys it, it certainly has never told me it does. Quite the opposite.

by nsxwolf 10y ago

__jal 10y ago
Ditto. Some people simply don't understand that other people hate exercise. It is extremely unpleasant for me. I get that other people enjoy it. Wish I did, but I hate it. The only choice of activity that makes physical work bearable for me is some sort of tangible payoff - I can work hard building things. Some of my heaviest physical activity is carpentry and light construction. I still don't enjoy it, but working towards making something is enough payoff to make it worth it. For this reason, I do quite a bit more of that sort of thing than is probably normal for a desk jockey. I also walk about two miles a day, just two and from work. For whatever reason, my brain wiring doesn't see "vaguely feeling a bit better in three months, maybe living an extra year or two when everything is falling apart anyway" as sufficient. The puritans can start on with the you-weren't-raised-right judgements now. I've heard it before.
- kirse 10y ago
  Some people simply don't understand that other people hate exercise. It is extremely unpleasant for me. I'm going to let you in on a little secret: If done at a proper relative intensity, everyone finds exercise extremely unpleasant in the moment. It's why we give up on planks, wuss-out on an uphill run or climb, back off the pace, listen to music, blab with others, skip the next rep, try to squeak out a few extra seconds before the next interval, and all sorts of other distractions while exercising. So your friends are BSing themselves or not working hard enough. What people actually enjoy is the feeling of accomplishment that comes after the fact, getting out in nature, or the validation of being in shape, being able to cheat more on meals... basically all the side benefits. It's fine that you don't want to do whatever you prop up in your head as "extremely unpleasant" exercise... just stay active like you are already doing. But please, cut out the mental baloney that you're some special snowflake because you find exercise unpleasant... we're all feeling the pain here.
  - clock_tower 10y ago
    I wonder what magic_beans ("your body WANTS to move around", three posts up) thinks of this response.
    - rimliu 10y ago
      I don't agree with "If done at a proper relative intensity, everyone finds exercise extremely unpleasant in the moment.". It may be physically uncomfortable but you can get pleasure from taking control over yourself. It's hard for me to explain, but some unpleasant thing can bring pleasure. Alos, if it is extremely unpleasant I'd doubt it is done at the proper level.
    - magic_beans 10y ago
      I totally agree :) I exercise nearly every damn day, and I find it UNPLEASANT. Of course it's unpleasant! My brain screams at me to just sit down and sleep. But exercise, if anything, is a mental challenge. The brain screams at you to stop, but your body, deep down, wants and needs to move. So I make myself do it, and OP makes themselves do it. I'm shocked that OOP doesn't seem to get any exercise-euphoria. That high is absolutely worth it.
      - clock_tower 10y ago
        But your previous comment was: > Your body WANTS to move around. There has to be some sport or physical activity you enjoy!
  - ksenzee 10y ago
    > we're all feeling the pain here Are you positing that everyone hates exercise to the same degree? I don't buy it. It's pretty obvious some people enjoy running. It's also pretty obvious some people hate it. Why should running be any different in that way from Brussels sprouts?
  - __jal 10y ago
    > mental baloney that you're some special snowflake because you find exercise unpleasant... we're all feeling the pain here. The other poster already addressed this, but I'll add: this is the sort response that always comes up. It clearly costs different people differently, in terms of mental energy and willpower. This "we're all feeling the pain here" is a vaguely polite form of the sort of "just suck it up, wimp" response that I've come to expect.
- always_good 10y ago
  I look at exercise as a form of self-domination. How can I dominate my life if I can't even dominate myself? I had a roommate that refused to shower for a week when we ran out of gas because he couldn't even bear the thought of a single 30-second cold shower. I hate every moment of exercising, but as soon as I'm leaving the gym, it doesn't matter anymore and I'm glad I did it. Even if I wasn't glad, it's necessary for my health. Tough potatoes. I don't think anyone is surprised that people hate exercise. That's why a tiny portion of the population exercises daily, and everyone else has excuses for why they can't, like "it's particularly unpleasant for me, you just don't understand." Saying no to another donut also sucks, but that's not a very good reason to eat donuts.
  - ksenzee 10y ago
    > I don't think anyone is surprised that people hate exercise. In my experience, plenty of people are surprised when I tell them there is no form of physical activity that I enjoy for its own sake. They start listing activities ("but what about skiing? Playing soccer?") and they seem genuinely surprised when I say that no, in fact, I really don't enjoy any of those things. I don't understand their surprise either, but there it is.
- mej10 10y ago
  > "vaguely feeling a bit better in three months, maybe living an extra year or two when everything is falling apart anyway" as sufficient. Once you are middle-aged (and even before for many people) it is much more than "vaguely feeling a bit better". Without reasonable muscle-tone and fitness your joints will ache every single day and you will begin losing mobility and getting injured more easily. I hate exercising. I do it because it is too costly not to.
  - patrickg_zill 10y ago
    THIS. The difference between 39 and 46 at the same apparent level of non-fitness is shocking. Stuff hurts that never did before. Getting and staying in shape is key after 40.

My brain doesn't want to move my body around. If my body enjoys it, it certainly has never told me it does. Quite the opposite.

by nsxwolf 10y ago

My brain doesn't want to move my body around. If my body enjoys it, it certainly has never told me it does. Quite the opposite.

__jal 10y ago

Ditto. Some people simply don't understand that other people hate exercise. It is extremely unpleasant for me. I get that other people enjoy it. Wish I did, but I hate it. The only choice of activity that makes physical work bearable for me is some sort of tangible payoff - I can work hard building things. Some of my heaviest physical activity is carpentry and light construction. I still don't enjoy it, but working towards making something is enough payoff to make it worth it. For this reason, I do quite a bit more of that sort of thing than is probably normal for a desk jockey. I also walk about two miles a day, just two and from work. For whatever reason, my brain wiring doesn't see "vaguely feeling a bit better in three months, maybe living an extra year or two when everything is falling apart anyway" as sufficient. The puritans can start on with the you-weren't-raised-right judgements now. I've heard it before.

kirse 10y ago
Some people simply don't understand that other people hate exercise. It is extremely unpleasant for me. I'm going to let you in on a little secret: If done at a proper relative intensity, everyone finds exercise extremely unpleasant in the moment. It's why we give up on planks, wuss-out on an uphill run or climb, back off the pace, listen to music, blab with others, skip the next rep, try to squeak out a few extra seconds before the next interval, and all sorts of other distractions while exercising. So your friends are BSing themselves or not working hard enough. What people actually enjoy is the feeling of accomplishment that comes after the fact, getting out in nature, or the validation of being in shape, being able to cheat more on meals... basically all the side benefits. It's fine that you don't want to do whatever you prop up in your head as "extremely unpleasant" exercise... just stay active like you are already doing. But please, cut out the mental baloney that you're some special snowflake because you find exercise unpleasant... we're all feeling the pain here.
- clock_tower 10y ago
  I wonder what magic_beans ("your body WANTS to move around", three posts up) thinks of this response.
  - rimliu 10y ago
    I don't agree with "If done at a proper relative intensity, everyone finds exercise extremely unpleasant in the moment.". It may be physically uncomfortable but you can get pleasure from taking control over yourself. It's hard for me to explain, but some unpleasant thing can bring pleasure. Alos, if it is extremely unpleasant I'd doubt it is done at the proper level.
  - magic_beans 10y ago
    I totally agree :) I exercise nearly every damn day, and I find it UNPLEASANT. Of course it's unpleasant! My brain screams at me to just sit down and sleep. But exercise, if anything, is a mental challenge. The brain screams at you to stop, but your body, deep down, wants and needs to move. So I make myself do it, and OP makes themselves do it. I'm shocked that OOP doesn't seem to get any exercise-euphoria. That high is absolutely worth it.
    - clock_tower 10y ago
      But your previous comment was: > Your body WANTS to move around. There has to be some sport or physical activity you enjoy!
- ksenzee 10y ago
  > we're all feeling the pain here Are you positing that everyone hates exercise to the same degree? I don't buy it. It's pretty obvious some people enjoy running. It's also pretty obvious some people hate it. Why should running be any different in that way from Brussels sprouts?
- __jal 10y ago
  > mental baloney that you're some special snowflake because you find exercise unpleasant... we're all feeling the pain here. The other poster already addressed this, but I'll add: this is the sort response that always comes up. It clearly costs different people differently, in terms of mental energy and willpower. This "we're all feeling the pain here" is a vaguely polite form of the sort of "just suck it up, wimp" response that I've come to expect.
always_good 10y ago
I look at exercise as a form of self-domination. How can I dominate my life if I can't even dominate myself? I had a roommate that refused to shower for a week when we ran out of gas because he couldn't even bear the thought of a single 30-second cold shower. I hate every moment of exercising, but as soon as I'm leaving the gym, it doesn't matter anymore and I'm glad I did it. Even if I wasn't glad, it's necessary for my health. Tough potatoes. I don't think anyone is surprised that people hate exercise. That's why a tiny portion of the population exercises daily, and everyone else has excuses for why they can't, like "it's particularly unpleasant for me, you just don't understand." Saying no to another donut also sucks, but that's not a very good reason to eat donuts.
- ksenzee 10y ago
  > I don't think anyone is surprised that people hate exercise. In my experience, plenty of people are surprised when I tell them there is no form of physical activity that I enjoy for its own sake. They start listing activities ("but what about skiing? Playing soccer?") and they seem genuinely surprised when I say that no, in fact, I really don't enjoy any of those things. I don't understand their surprise either, but there it is.
mej10 10y ago
> "vaguely feeling a bit better in three months, maybe living an extra year or two when everything is falling apart anyway" as sufficient. Once you are middle-aged (and even before for many people) it is much more than "vaguely feeling a bit better". Without reasonable muscle-tone and fitness your joints will ache every single day and you will begin losing mobility and getting injured more easily. I hate exercising. I do it because it is too costly not to.
- patrickg_zill 10y ago
  THIS. The difference between 39 and 46 at the same apparent level of non-fitness is shocking. Stuff hurts that never did before. Getting and staying in shape is key after 40.