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i don't think inequality can be solved by globalization. if you look at the poor countries, you'll find a multitude of structural problems. until these structur

i don't think inequality can be solved by globalization. if you look at the poor countries, you'll find a multitude of structural problems. until these structural problems are dealt with, globalization is likely to feed corruption. i agree that globalization would reduce the risk of global conflict - there would only be one side. thus, if the wrong people were in power there would be no way to fight them. that's scary.

hwillis 10y ago
>i agree that globalization would reduce the risk of global conflict - there would only be one side. thus, if the wrong people were in power there would be no way to fight them. that's scary. That's not scary, that's the US. The Federal government functions more successfully than state governments in every way. In the Fed we have Trump vs. in states we have literal coups and gerrymandering. The US is better as a federation than individual states in every way. A state is not more able to fight "the wrong people being in charge", but they are significantly more vulnerable to it.
- Florin_Andrei 10y ago
  This is single-cell bugs vs multicellular organisms all over again.
Florin_Andrei 10y ago
> i don't think inequality can be solved by globalization. No, it's the other way'round. On the way to globalization, we need to make sure inequality stays within reasonable levels, otherwise the whole thing will fail.
- TheAdamAndChe 10y ago
  Globalization is the exploitation of the lower standard of living in other areas. The reason corporations ship jobs overseas is because it's cheap. This in no way controls inequality, and in fact makes it worse.
  - Florin_Andrei 10y ago
    > Globalization is the exploitation of the lower standard of living in other areas. Yes, I am aware that some people define it that way.
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  - henrikschroder 10y ago
    Globalization has caused the largest transfer of wealth from rich countries to poor countries in the history of mankind, reducing inequality between countries on an unprecedented scale.
    - TheAdamAndChe 10y ago
      This is true, but it has also strengthened inequality significantly within countries: https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2007/02/pdf/c4.pdf https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2007/02/pdf/c4.pdf
      - henrikschroder 10y ago
        Yes, that is bad, but eliminating extreme poverty is really, really good.
        TheAdamAndChe 10y ago
        If the lower and middle classes of a country don't benefit from globalism(like the US right now), political instability and widespread disdain for globalism will result. It may be a net positive overall, but it doesn't mean much if everyone around me is losing their jobs. If globalism is that important to lift other countries out of poverty, then we need to find a more sustainable way to carry it out.
        10y ago
kelnos 10y ago
No one (including the post you're replying to) is suggesting that globalization can solve inequality. It solves a bunch of other things, presents some new challenges, and makes the consequences of inequality worse.
gdubs 10y ago
Take something like Climate Change. Pretty good example if any that global cooperation is needed to solve. Also ultimately the biggest inequality issue looming as it will disproportionately hurt the world's poorest.
Chris2048 10y ago
Incidental, this is the main reason I voted for Brexit. I see things like the hunt for Assange, (or Snowden) and am of the opinion that the more collected various governments are, the easier it is for them to prey on the divided populace.

hwillis 10y ago

>i agree that globalization would reduce the risk of global conflict - there would only be one side. thus, if the wrong people were in power there would be no way to fight them. that's scary. That's not scary, that's the US. The Federal government functions more successfully than state governments in every way. In the Fed we have Trump vs. in states we have literal coups and gerrymandering. The US is better as a federation than individual states in every way. A state is not more able to fight "the wrong people being in charge", but they are significantly more vulnerable to it.

Florin_Andrei 10y ago
This is single-cell bugs vs multicellular organisms all over again.

Florin_Andrei 10y ago

> i don't think inequality can be solved by globalization. No, it's the other way'round. On the way to globalization, we need to make sure inequality stays within reasonable levels, otherwise the whole thing will fail.

TheAdamAndChe 10y ago
Globalization is the exploitation of the lower standard of living in other areas. The reason corporations ship jobs overseas is because it's cheap. This in no way controls inequality, and in fact makes it worse.
- Florin_Andrei 10y ago
  > Globalization is the exploitation of the lower standard of living in other areas. Yes, I am aware that some people define it that way.
  - deleted 10y ago
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- henrikschroder 10y ago
  Globalization has caused the largest transfer of wealth from rich countries to poor countries in the history of mankind, reducing inequality between countries on an unprecedented scale.
  - TheAdamAndChe 10y ago
    This is true, but it has also strengthened inequality significantly within countries: https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2007/02/pdf/c4.pdf https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2007/02/pdf/c4.pdf
    - henrikschroder 10y ago
      Yes, that is bad, but eliminating extreme poverty is really, really good.
      - TheAdamAndChe 10y ago
        If the lower and middle classes of a country don't benefit from globalism(like the US right now), political instability and widespread disdain for globalism will result. It may be a net positive overall, but it doesn't mean much if everyone around me is losing their jobs. If globalism is that important to lift other countries out of poverty, then we need to find a more sustainable way to carry it out.
        10y ago

kelnos 10y ago

No one (including the post you're replying to) is suggesting that globalization can solve inequality. It solves a bunch of other things, presents some new challenges, and makes the consequences of inequality worse.

gdubs 10y ago

Take something like Climate Change. Pretty good example if any that global cooperation is needed to solve. Also ultimately the biggest inequality issue looming as it will disproportionately hurt the world's poorest.

Chris2048 10y ago

Incidental, this is the main reason I voted for Brexit. I see things like the hunt for Assange, (or Snowden) and am of the opinion that the more collected various governments are, the easier it is for them to prey on the divided populace.