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And neither should they. The German government wants to implement insane penalties for not removing "fake news" fast enough, but what they're really trying to

And neither should they. The German government wants to implement insane penalties for not removing "fake news" fast enough, but what they're really trying to do is make sure Facebook only tells their side of the story, i.e. establish censorship on the internet. Government-critical sites that had millions of followers were already banned while media supporting the government can happily keep spreading their equally or even worse fake news. It's becoming a world-wide trend to call unfavorable things fascist and then employ fascist methods to fight them. Just like calling oligarchic structures a democracy, because it sells better.

tgragnato 10y ago
Upvoted, I really feel that the discussion about fake news is degenerating / encroaching towards maintaining the status quo and a generalised lack of self-criticism. When I read > I highly doubt that Facebook will “move fast, break things.” > Instead, Facebook is pushing half-hearted solutions and scapegoating the issue to other parties, prepping to weather this storm on an already-laid foundation of media dependence and habit. I start to think Facebook is only waiting to be disrupted. This may be one of the human sides of a technology developed by people who want to "fix everything from polarization to terrorist attacks to how we live together", but fail to provide basic rights to its users (privacy and freedom of information among others). Any opinion ?
Bartweiss 10y ago
The obvious point is that Facebook cannot provide accurate review-and-takedown of the total activity of billions of users. It doesn't matter what you legislate, it's currently not possible. Given which, "penalties for fake news" means one of: "after reports, which is too late", "all of it, so shut down your company", or "anything which annoys us enough to prosecute, so be proactive about pushing our stance". Choice three seems to be the usual outcome.
synicalx 10y ago
> It's becoming a world-wide trend to call unfavorable things fascist and then employ fascist methods to fight them. Take all of my upvotes. I'll never get my head around "Antifa" doxxing and assaulting Trump voters because they're "facists". When someone stands up against these kids, ie Based Stick Man, they're the ones that get arrested not the aggressors.
- jungletek 10y ago
  Guess they never learned about Nietzsche... “Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you.”

tgragnato 10y ago

Upvoted, I really feel that the discussion about fake news is degenerating / encroaching towards maintaining the status quo and a generalised lack of self-criticism. When I read > I highly doubt that Facebook will “move fast, break things.” > Instead, Facebook is pushing half-hearted solutions and scapegoating the issue to other parties, prepping to weather this storm on an already-laid foundation of media dependence and habit. I start to think Facebook is only waiting to be disrupted. This may be one of the human sides of a technology developed by people who want to "fix everything from polarization to terrorist attacks to how we live together", but fail to provide basic rights to its users (privacy and freedom of information among others). Any opinion ?

Bartweiss 10y ago

The obvious point is that Facebook cannot provide accurate review-and-takedown of the total activity of billions of users. It doesn't matter what you legislate, it's currently not possible. Given which, "penalties for fake news" means one of: "after reports, which is too late", "all of it, so shut down your company", or "anything which annoys us enough to prosecute, so be proactive about pushing our stance". Choice three seems to be the usual outcome.

synicalx 10y ago

> It's becoming a world-wide trend to call unfavorable things fascist and then employ fascist methods to fight them. Take all of my upvotes. I'll never get my head around "Antifa" doxxing and assaulting Trump voters because they're "facists". When someone stands up against these kids, ie Based Stick Man, they're the ones that get arrested not the aggressors.

jungletek 10y ago
Guess they never learned about Nietzsche... “Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you.”