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lets be clear. rich people do not have to deal with this. denny hastert rapes a bunch of people and is still thought of as a good guy by the powerful and wealth

lets be clear. rich people do not have to deal with this. denny hastert rapes a bunch of people and is still thought of as a good guy by the powerful and wealthy. how many more like him are protected? catholic church institutionalizes criminal sexual abuse but nobody in management goes to prison. corey feldman knows who raped him but cannot say it because that person has too much money and power in hollywood. hedge fund managers go to thailand and fuck child prostitutes but they come back here and invest in private prisons that make money putting kids in lockup for playing doctor. some teenager sends a nude pic and get years in prison. welcome to 'freedom' i actually support the 'crackdown on sex crimes'... if it went after actual criminals!!!! politicians, CEOs, cops, bankers, all those people who routinely rape kids and get away with it. but as usual, it just is a way for the rich to enslave the poor, extract money from them, abuse them, and discard them.

jacquesm 10y ago
The current president is at a minimum guilty of multiple cases of sexual assault. Rich people do not only not have to deal with it, they are next to untouchable.
- igor_filippov 10y ago
  Wait what? Isn't he innocent until proven otherwise?
  - snowpanda 10y ago
    Not for people that can't get over the election results.
  - jacquesm 10y ago
    He pretty much admitted it himself, what else do you want? Or do you feel that because he lies all the time we should not believe him at all, even when he incriminates himself? I'm fairly confident in declaring Trump guilty of that, this is not a court of law, it's an internet forum and the standards for both are different. In fact, the standards of proof for criminal law are different from those for civil law (see OJ), and I think it's a bit much to require the standard of proof for criminal law to apply to a forum discussion for someone who is on the record as stating the does exactly that which others claim he did to them.
    - igor_filippov 10y ago
      I'm sorry, you're somewhere around fake news-level in your argumentation.
      - jacquesm 10y ago
        If someone claims something and is subsequently accused of having done that exact same thing that is not the same as 'making shit up'.
    - bluedevil2k 10y ago
      "Admitted it" is not the same thing as braggadocio
      - jacquesm 10y ago
        No, because we all make up shit like that. /s
    - mistermann 10y ago
      Myself and half the guys and girls I grew up with are also guilty of sexual assault based on many people's current definition.
      - deleted 10y ago
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      - jacquesm 10y ago
        By what definition would that be?
        mistermann 10y ago
        Touching or suggestive language without explicit verbal or written consent would be one example. I've personally been raped thusly on numerous occasions.
- Chris2048 10y ago
  > at a minimum guilty of multiple cases of sexual assault proof? and not by media assertion, please.
stagbeetle 10y ago
This is strawmanning and hyperbole. Hastert "cannot be prosecuted for sexual abuse because the statute of limitations has expired for his conduct decades earlier."[0] This also goes against the ethos of the article. Hastert apologized (although this cannot make up for heinous deeds) for his conduct and showed regret. If we believe for the sake of argument that he is truly sorrowful and wants to turn over a new leaf, who are you to deny him this? The "rich" and "powerful" and "politicians, CEOs, cops, bankers, all those people who routinely rape kids and get away with it" are not the bogeyman you make them out to be. They are people with problems just like the rest of us. Some of them just have better lawyers. [0]http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/zorn/ct-why-the-statute-of-limitations-protects-hastert-20150608-story.html http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/zorn/ct-why-the-s...
- pc86 10y ago
  > If we believe for the sake of argument that he is truly sorrowful and wants to turn over a new leaf, who are you to deny him this? While personally I am in favor of these types of registries (ideally with quite a few changes), the argument is that if you are placed on a lifetime offender list, you can be as sorrowful as you want, you can never turn over a new leaf. You effectively have a life sentence even if you never had to step foot inside a jail cell.
  - stagbeetle 10y ago
    > You effectively have a life sentence even if you never had to step foot inside a jail cell. Thus, the first thing to change would be public perception about this issue.
alistproducer2 10y ago
On a similar note, Florida (and I'm sure other states) have laws that prevent government employees and their relatives' mugshots from being public records. [1] 1: http://www.wctv.tv/news/headlines/1247277.html http://www.wctv.tv/news/headlines/1247277.html

jacquesm 10y ago

The current president is at a minimum guilty of multiple cases of sexual assault. Rich people do not only not have to deal with it, they are next to untouchable.

igor_filippov 10y ago
Wait what? Isn't he innocent until proven otherwise?
- snowpanda 10y ago
  Not for people that can't get over the election results.
- jacquesm 10y ago
  He pretty much admitted it himself, what else do you want? Or do you feel that because he lies all the time we should not believe him at all, even when he incriminates himself? I'm fairly confident in declaring Trump guilty of that, this is not a court of law, it's an internet forum and the standards for both are different. In fact, the standards of proof for criminal law are different from those for civil law (see OJ), and I think it's a bit much to require the standard of proof for criminal law to apply to a forum discussion for someone who is on the record as stating the does exactly that which others claim he did to them.
  - igor_filippov 10y ago
    I'm sorry, you're somewhere around fake news-level in your argumentation.
    - jacquesm 10y ago
      If someone claims something and is subsequently accused of having done that exact same thing that is not the same as 'making shit up'.
  - bluedevil2k 10y ago
    "Admitted it" is not the same thing as braggadocio
    - jacquesm 10y ago
      No, because we all make up shit like that. /s
  - mistermann 10y ago
    Myself and half the guys and girls I grew up with are also guilty of sexual assault based on many people's current definition.
    - deleted 10y ago
      [deleted]
    - jacquesm 10y ago
      By what definition would that be?
      - mistermann 10y ago
        Touching or suggestive language without explicit verbal or written consent would be one example. I've personally been raped thusly on numerous occasions.
Chris2048 10y ago
> at a minimum guilty of multiple cases of sexual assault proof? and not by media assertion, please.

stagbeetle 10y ago

This is strawmanning and hyperbole. Hastert "cannot be prosecuted for sexual abuse because the statute of limitations has expired for his conduct decades earlier."[0] This also goes against the ethos of the article. Hastert apologized (although this cannot make up for heinous deeds) for his conduct and showed regret. If we believe for the sake of argument that he is truly sorrowful and wants to turn over a new leaf, who are you to deny him this? The "rich" and "powerful" and "politicians, CEOs, cops, bankers, all those people who routinely rape kids and get away with it" are not the bogeyman you make them out to be. They are people with problems just like the rest of us. Some of them just have better lawyers. [0]http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/zorn/ct-why-the-statute-of-limitations-protects-hastert-20150608-story.html http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/zorn/ct-why-the-s...

pc86 10y ago
> If we believe for the sake of argument that he is truly sorrowful and wants to turn over a new leaf, who are you to deny him this? While personally I am in favor of these types of registries (ideally with quite a few changes), the argument is that if you are placed on a lifetime offender list, you can be as sorrowful as you want, you can never turn over a new leaf. You effectively have a life sentence even if you never had to step foot inside a jail cell.
- stagbeetle 10y ago
  > You effectively have a life sentence even if you never had to step foot inside a jail cell. Thus, the first thing to change would be public perception about this issue.

alistproducer2 10y ago

On a similar note, Florida (and I'm sure other states) have laws that prevent government employees and their relatives' mugshots from being public records. [1] 1: http://www.wctv.tv/news/headlines/1247277.html http://www.wctv.tv/news/headlines/1247277.html