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Sounds like you had some kratom that was sprayed with an opiate adulterant. I've been taking kratom for going on seven years almost every day (with short breaks

Sounds like you had some kratom that was sprayed with an opiate adulterant. I've been taking kratom for going on seven years almost every day (with short breaks once a month and a longer break in the summer), and I source my kratom directly from an Indonesian farmer cooperative. This is an unfortunate thing happening by unscrupulous kratom vendors: They'll sell whatever they get their hands on, and in order to give it a bit of a kick, they'll spray it with tramadol or some other opiate adulterant. This is actually what happened with the handful of hospitalizations and deaths in Sweden: These teenagers had gotten a hold of kratom that had been sprayed with strong opiates. It sounds like whoever darpa_escapee was buying from was adding a little something extra. Without any tests, it's impossible to say that darpa_escapee was buying actual kratom and not something completely different and much more dangerous. Which happens, and is one of the reasons that the kratom community is starting to push for more stringent controls (and testing) on the supply chain: So that people can know for certain they're buying kratom and not just some shit sprayed with dangerous opiates that gives them all the telltale signs of some kind of regular opiate addiction like darpa_escapee here. Sorry you had such bad luck with your "kratom" supplier, darpa_escapee.

darpa_escapee 10y ago
Given this was over the period of two years, with numerous vendors (my email history shows over 14 vendors and bulk suppliers) that were cross referenced with independent rating systems, some invite only to prevent manipulation and investigation, I highly doubt it. The biggest factor in how it affected me was my complete opiate-naivety. I had never once taken an opiate before, therefore Kratom was subjectively powerful to me. Much like someone taking their first drink or smoking their first joint, I became very intoxicated. I think the latter is a likelier explanation than a multi-national, multi-continental conspiracy between 14 disparate supply chains to adulterate only my supply of Kratom and no one else's. > seven years almost every day After two years, my initial doses of Kratom felt much like a cup of coffee because of tolerance. Someone who has never taken an opiate before is going to have vastly different responses to Kratom than someone who is well into their 7 year Kratom habit. Once you've built tolerance and gone through the dependence / withdrawal cycle, you will never have the same consistent response to opiates as you did when you were opiate-naive. Last year, I had the rest of my wisdom teeth taken out. I was prescribed 5mg Vicodin. It helped with the pain, which was very bad, but it honestly wasn't noticeable that I took anything narcotic. 7 years prior I had the same operation and was given the same medication. One 5mg Vicodin has me on my ass for hours back then.

darpa_escapee 10y ago

Given this was over the period of two years, with numerous vendors (my email history shows over 14 vendors and bulk suppliers) that were cross referenced with independent rating systems, some invite only to prevent manipulation and investigation, I highly doubt it. The biggest factor in how it affected me was my complete opiate-naivety. I had never once taken an opiate before, therefore Kratom was subjectively powerful to me. Much like someone taking their first drink or smoking their first joint, I became very intoxicated. I think the latter is a likelier explanation than a multi-national, multi-continental conspiracy between 14 disparate supply chains to adulterate only my supply of Kratom and no one else's. > seven years almost every day After two years, my initial doses of Kratom felt much like a cup of coffee because of tolerance. Someone who has never taken an opiate before is going to have vastly different responses to Kratom than someone who is well into their 7 year Kratom habit. Once you've built tolerance and gone through the dependence / withdrawal cycle, you will never have the same consistent response to opiates as you did when you were opiate-naive. Last year, I had the rest of my wisdom teeth taken out. I was prescribed 5mg Vicodin. It helped with the pain, which was very bad, but it honestly wasn't noticeable that I took anything narcotic. 7 years prior I had the same operation and was given the same medication. One 5mg Vicodin has me on my ass for hours back then.