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London is far too diverse for this comparison to make sense. It has ten times the population of San Francisco. If you think London is a particular way, it is pr

by adwhit 10y ago

London is far too diverse for this comparison to make sense. It has ten times the population of San Francisco. If you think London is a particular way, it is probably because the bit of London you are in is that way.

objclxt 10y ago
> If you think London is a particular way, it is probably because the bit of London you are in is that way. Not just London. Take this quote from the original article: > In San Francisco the predominant ways people make money is through selling or floating their startup - it’s about working hard and living frugally whilst working with your team For want of a better word, that's BS. Firstly that pre-supposes everyone working in tech in SF is in a position where they'd make money off their startup selling or floating (many startup employees aren't, and even then as a profitable exit is the exception, not the norm. Secondly, it discounts everyone quietly making significant amounts of money plugging away at a sizable tech company milking the RSUs over time (and that's a lot of people). I've lived in both cities, my experiences have been completely different.
quicklime 10y ago
The population of San Francisco proper is only ~800k but the population of the Bay Area as a whole is about 7 million people, which is only slightly less than Greater London's 8 million.
- bogomipz 10y ago
  Why is this relevant? The Bay area is not San Francisco. The post is comparing London with San Francisco. San Francisco is tiny compared to London in both area and population.
  - acchow 10y ago
    One of you is talking about SF the city. The other about SF the political entity.
    - bogomipz 10y ago
      San Francisco the political entity what is that? At any rate the blog post isn't about politics at all. San Francisco is a city and the "Bay Area" is a region. In London people from both Chiswick and Hackney which are quite far away from each other both say they are from London. Someone from Sonoma and someone from Santa Clara don't say they're from San Francisco.
- twelvechairs 10y ago
  You are skewing the other way. A reasonable comparison may be the bay areas 7m vs the london commuter belts 14m
petegrif 10y ago
Very true. London is an incredibly diverse international city. San Francisco is, by comparison, a village.

by adwhit 10y ago

objclxt 10y ago

> If you think London is a particular way, it is probably because the bit of London you are in is that way. Not just London. Take this quote from the original article: > In San Francisco the predominant ways people make money is through selling or floating their startup - it’s about working hard and living frugally whilst working with your team For want of a better word, that's BS. Firstly that pre-supposes everyone working in tech in SF is in a position where they'd make money off their startup selling or floating (many startup employees aren't, and even then as a profitable exit is the exception, not the norm. Secondly, it discounts everyone quietly making significant amounts of money plugging away at a sizable tech company milking the RSUs over time (and that's a lot of people). I've lived in both cities, my experiences have been completely different.

quicklime 10y ago

The population of San Francisco proper is only ~800k but the population of the Bay Area as a whole is about 7 million people, which is only slightly less than Greater London's 8 million.

bogomipz 10y ago
Why is this relevant? The Bay area is not San Francisco. The post is comparing London with San Francisco. San Francisco is tiny compared to London in both area and population.
- acchow 10y ago
  One of you is talking about SF the city. The other about SF the political entity.
  - bogomipz 10y ago
    San Francisco the political entity what is that? At any rate the blog post isn't about politics at all. San Francisco is a city and the "Bay Area" is a region. In London people from both Chiswick and Hackney which are quite far away from each other both say they are from London. Someone from Sonoma and someone from Santa Clara don't say they're from San Francisco.
twelvechairs 10y ago
You are skewing the other way. A reasonable comparison may be the bay areas 7m vs the london commuter belts 14m

petegrif 10y ago

Very true. London is an incredibly diverse international city. San Francisco is, by comparison, a village.