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I lost any trust for Skype the first time they emailed me that I had 7 days to use some credit or they would confiscate all of it. How is that not theft?
by johnrob 16y ago
I lost any trust for Skype the first time they emailed me that I had 7 days to use some credit or they would confiscate all of it. How is that not theft?
- pdx 16y agoThat was discussed here, probably when you brought it up last time. It's the same reason that gift cards expire and properly written NDA's have time limits. Nobody wants to owe somebody something until the universe dies, especially accountants, and especially if the people to whom that debt is owed, are dead or have forgotten about it. It would be insane to carry it on your books until doomsday.
- yafujifide 16y agoSo maybe they should give cash rather than credit.
- mr_november 16y agoI disagree with this, it's entirely possible for vendors to honour gift cards (and credits) indefinitely. In fact, here in Canada, in most provinces, if not all, it's law and has been for some time: http://www.gov.on.ca/mgs/en/News/133713.html http://www.gov.on.ca/mgs/en/News/133713.html
- what 16y agoI was looking for that. Business make boatloads from unused, expired gift cards.
- jws 16y agoThe problem comes in the accounting. Try borrowing X million dollars against 2X million in assets when you have 4X outstanding debts that can be called in at any time. Sure, they probably won't be, and you might discount them to near zero, but the lender won't be so generous.
- freakwit 16y agoBut in the sale of the gift cards/credits, at a 1:1 exchange rate, your assets would increase as well as your debt, surely?
- jws 16y agoSure, at the time of sale. But you will spend/disburse the money you receive in short order and be left with a looming debt on your balance sheet.
- dedward 16y agoExactly.... I actually found Skype's way of handling this to be far more fair and less predatory than most - not only were they generous with the expiration date, but they insisted you only had to log in and place a single call (spend a penny or so) to keep it going another 6 months, or whatever.... it's just keeping dead liabilities from accumulating... and skype was NICE about it, sending me all those notifications.
- jodrellblank 16y agoIt's not theft if, when paying them money to give as credit, you agreed to use it within a certain time frame.
- spicyj 16y agoAlthough that's partly true, I believe you only have to use one minute of the credit and the rest will stick around for another 12 months.