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"Once you subject the presentation of corroborated facts to votes, you are establishing a system to manipulate" You appear to be unaware that Wikipedia's Artic

"Once you subject the presentation of corroborated facts to votes, you are establishing a system to manipulate" You appear to be unaware that Wikipedia's Articles For Deletion process is essentially based on a voting system. What you say about the nature of voting and censoring is basically at the heart of the criticisms of Wikipedia's editorial process.

geezerjay 10y ago
> You appear to be unaware that Wikipedia's Articles For Deletion process is essentially based on a voting system. Your comment is disingenuous at best. The voting process only applies to articles which were nominated for deletion and fail to meet Wikipedia's guidelines for notoriety. That means that you can only vote in favour of deleting any article if it already fails to meet the requirements for hosting the article to begin with. In case you didn't understood the process, voting only applies either to false positives or false negatives. The process is set to make it possible to delete only articles which fail to be shown to be relevant. For example, you can't even nominate well established articles such as the article on Jesus Christ by any means, including nominating it to the AfD Do read up on the process instead of making up stuff about it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy
- ProxCoques 10y ago
  "The voting process only applies to articles which were nominated for deletion and fail to meet Wikipedia's guidelines for notoriety." Citation please. Look, I'll ignore your remark about disingenuousness because you're clearly confused. As per https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_process https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_process "Normally, a deletion discussion must be held to form a consensus to delete a page." The convention in such discussions is essentially a vote. Yes, it's a discussion vote, but that's the process of Consensus: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus

geezerjay 10y ago

> You appear to be unaware that Wikipedia's Articles For Deletion process is essentially based on a voting system. Your comment is disingenuous at best. The voting process only applies to articles which were nominated for deletion and fail to meet Wikipedia's guidelines for notoriety. That means that you can only vote in favour of deleting any article if it already fails to meet the requirements for hosting the article to begin with. In case you didn't understood the process, voting only applies either to false positives or false negatives. The process is set to make it possible to delete only articles which fail to be shown to be relevant. For example, you can't even nominate well established articles such as the article on Jesus Christ by any means, including nominating it to the AfD Do read up on the process instead of making up stuff about it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy

ProxCoques 10y ago
"The voting process only applies to articles which were nominated for deletion and fail to meet Wikipedia's guidelines for notoriety." Citation please. Look, I'll ignore your remark about disingenuousness because you're clearly confused. As per https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_process https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_process "Normally, a deletion discussion must be held to form a consensus to delete a page." The convention in such discussions is essentially a vote. Yes, it's a discussion vote, but that's the process of Consensus: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus