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> Did you read any of it? How weaselly. His conclusion is plain to see: "The result? Ubuntu still doesn't fully work on that particular machine"

by ygaf 10y ago

Sir_Cmpwn 10y ago
How do you figure that as weasely? You could easily argue that posting a link to a 150+ page forum thread with a dozen serious issues in the OP is misleading when today only one minor issue is outstanding.
- ygaf 10y ago
  You didn't dispute his conclusion (the topic being whether linux requires 3 trivial fixes max) , settling for undermining his post in general.
  - Sir_Cmpwn 10y ago
    You're just picking nits here.
- DanBC 10y ago
  One minor issue? You seem to misunderstand that thread. If you do a stock install of Ubuntu you'll have very many, showstopping, errors. If you use a custom script that forces a custom bootloader, custom kernel, and a bunch of other fixes, you end up with a machine that still doesn't have headphone audio and some problems with bluetooth.
  - Sir_Cmpwn 10y ago
    The relevant kernel changes are shipping in 4.11, though. Bluetooth seems to be working according to the latest messages. What's this about a custom bootloader? The other fixes so far as I can tell are pretty easily applied in <20 minutes work. It seems very do-able to get this laptop working correctly, especially when 4.11 ships. A self-defeatist attitude won't make this more comfortable. If you don't like that Windows 10 is full of ads and spyware, the time investment to get this laptop working seems pretty small in exchange for a better OS. Throw in a little extra time to get these fixes applied in the form of patches to the relevant projects. If everyone gave up because they can't put a few minutes into troubleshooting and tweaking their setups, Linux will never grow to the threshold necessary to get vendors to support it OOTB.

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> Did you read any of it? How weaselly. His conclusion is plain to see: "The result? Ubuntu still doesn't fully work on that particular machine"

by ygaf 10y ago

> Did you read any of it? How weaselly. His conclusion is plain to see: "The result? Ubuntu still doesn't fully work on that particular machine"

Sir_Cmpwn 10y ago
How do you figure that as weasely? You could easily argue that posting a link to a 150+ page forum thread with a dozen serious issues in the OP is misleading when today only one minor issue is outstanding.
- ygaf 10y ago
  You didn't dispute his conclusion (the topic being whether linux requires 3 trivial fixes max) , settling for undermining his post in general.
  - Sir_Cmpwn 10y ago
    You're just picking nits here.
- DanBC 10y ago
  One minor issue? You seem to misunderstand that thread. If you do a stock install of Ubuntu you'll have very many, showstopping, errors. If you use a custom script that forces a custom bootloader, custom kernel, and a bunch of other fixes, you end up with a machine that still doesn't have headphone audio and some problems with bluetooth.
  - Sir_Cmpwn 10y ago
    The relevant kernel changes are shipping in 4.11, though. Bluetooth seems to be working according to the latest messages. What's this about a custom bootloader? The other fixes so far as I can tell are pretty easily applied in <20 minutes work. It seems very do-able to get this laptop working correctly, especially when 4.11 ships. A self-defeatist attitude won't make this more comfortable. If you don't like that Windows 10 is full of ads and spyware, the time investment to get this laptop working seems pretty small in exchange for a better OS. Throw in a little extra time to get these fixes applied in the form of patches to the relevant projects. If everyone gave up because they can't put a few minutes into troubleshooting and tweaking their setups, Linux will never grow to the threshold necessary to get vendors to support it OOTB.