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Is this suicide attempts included I wonder? Cities definitely have more help groups and "watch" groups. Chances of survival are also more around cities if someo

Is this suicide attempts included I wonder? Cities definitely have more help groups and "watch" groups. Chances of survival are also more around cities if someone spots you can calls emergency services. (Someone noticing their loved one/roommate attempting something and calling the doctors for example: someone I knew had their stomach pumped under 20 mins of them taking pills and survived). I think opioid addiction is a symptom and not the cause. Maybe disappearance of rural environment where one grew up contributes to not being able to cope even more. Slightly offtopic but: http://www.davidsongifted.org/Search-Database/entry/A10554 http://www.davidsongifted.org/Search-Database/entry/A10554

SomeCallMeTim 10y ago
>I think opioid addiction is a symptom and not the cause. If the Rat Park study's conclusions [1] can be extended to humans, all addictions are symptoms of a deeper cause: Your life sucks. From what I've read, there's a feeling that the fundamental way of life that many of these people grew up with is really being threatened. Combine that with a complete lack of ability to support your family, and a sense that tons of people in cities (which are an anathema to their value structure) are getting ahead while they fall behind... Yeah, their lives suck, and they see no way out. Sorry to be depressing here. Hillary actually had some policies that could have helped, and still more if she'd had a friendly Congress to pass supporting legislation. Trump, on the other hand, wants to help people through an application of trickle-down economics ... sigh ... [1] https://www.ted.com/talks/johann_hari_everything_you_think_you_know_about_addiction_is_wrong?language=en https://www.ted.com/talks/johann_hari_everything_you_think_y...
DanBC 10y ago
> Is this suicide attempts included I wonder? I don't think so. It's hard to define what a suicide attempt is, but most definitions would see far higher than 15 attempts per 100,000 population. EDIT: 2013 saw about 40,000 to 50,000 deaths by suicide in the US, with about 450,000 hospital treatments for self inflicted injury.
- itchyjunk 10y ago
  Ahh, thats pretty high. Also, accidental overdose is also not considered attempted suicide and accidental OD is more likely to lead to death in rural areas.

SomeCallMeTim 10y ago

>I think opioid addiction is a symptom and not the cause. If the Rat Park study's conclusions [1] can be extended to humans, all addictions are symptoms of a deeper cause: Your life sucks. From what I've read, there's a feeling that the fundamental way of life that many of these people grew up with is really being threatened. Combine that with a complete lack of ability to support your family, and a sense that tons of people in cities (which are an anathema to their value structure) are getting ahead while they fall behind... Yeah, their lives suck, and they see no way out. Sorry to be depressing here. Hillary actually had some policies that could have helped, and still more if she'd had a friendly Congress to pass supporting legislation. Trump, on the other hand, wants to help people through an application of trickle-down economics ... sigh ... [1] https://www.ted.com/talks/johann_hari_everything_you_think_you_know_about_addiction_is_wrong?language=en https://www.ted.com/talks/johann_hari_everything_you_think_y...

DanBC 10y ago

> Is this suicide attempts included I wonder? I don't think so. It's hard to define what a suicide attempt is, but most definitions would see far higher than 15 attempts per 100,000 population. EDIT: 2013 saw about 40,000 to 50,000 deaths by suicide in the US, with about 450,000 hospital treatments for self inflicted injury.

itchyjunk 10y ago
Ahh, thats pretty high. Also, accidental overdose is also not considered attempted suicide and accidental OD is more likely to lead to death in rural areas.