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Access to scoops and leaks, which translate into articles that get page views, which translate into ad dollars, is an indirect way to pay off a journalist.

edblarney 10y ago
So by your logic they are 'bribing' the journalist and 'paying them off' by 'giving them a scoop'? Ergo - every decent news story amounts to 'bribery'? I think you bit your tongue on that one.
- shard972 10y ago
  Is this not the main criticism leveled at big press outlets during Obama's administration? That they were too easy on reporting and justified it by saying you need to be to get the scoops.
- im3w1l 10y ago
  http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/24/media/cnn-blocked-white-house-gaggle/ http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/24/media/cnn-blocked-white-hous...
- coldtea 10y ago
  >So by your logic they are 'bribing' the journalist and 'paying them off' by 'giving them a scoop'? Yes, it happens often. Journalists get paid with scoops, etc (aka in the industry as "access") and that buys some favorable pieces and a sympathetic ear on the other side. Here's an example (there are countless others from all parties and from tons of companies): http://gawker.com/this-is-how-hillary-clinton-gets-the-coverage-she-wants-1758019058 http://gawker.com/this-is-how-hillary-clinton-gets-the-cover... >Ergo - every decent news story amounts to 'bribery'? Where did you came with this weirdo conclusion? Bribing a journalist/media with scoops if something that happens, not something that ALWAYS happen -- so it doesn't apply to "every decent news story". For one, not every scoop has been leaked to the outlet breaking it by the company/organization that the scoop is about. >I think you bit your tongue on that one. No, he really didn't.
  - edblarney 10y ago
    I'm fully aware of how it works. And no, it's not bribery. His comment was an unsubstantiated attack on the journalist who wrote that piece. That piece is by no means a 'puff piece' - it's just a normal bit of journalism, and it's actually reasonably good. Making statements like 'oh, they paid them for that piece' is derogatory and crude, and unless there's some obvious reason or merit to the argument, it need not be said.
- rglullis 10y ago
  > Every decent news story amounts to bribery? George Orwell's "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed: everything else is public relations" is the best filter to apply in these situations.

edblarney 10y ago

So by your logic they are 'bribing' the journalist and 'paying them off' by 'giving them a scoop'? Ergo - every decent news story amounts to 'bribery'? I think you bit your tongue on that one.

shard972 10y ago
Is this not the main criticism leveled at big press outlets during Obama's administration? That they were too easy on reporting and justified it by saying you need to be to get the scoops.
im3w1l 10y ago
http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/24/media/cnn-blocked-white-house-gaggle/ http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/24/media/cnn-blocked-white-hous...
coldtea 10y ago
>So by your logic they are 'bribing' the journalist and 'paying them off' by 'giving them a scoop'? Yes, it happens often. Journalists get paid with scoops, etc (aka in the industry as "access") and that buys some favorable pieces and a sympathetic ear on the other side. Here's an example (there are countless others from all parties and from tons of companies): http://gawker.com/this-is-how-hillary-clinton-gets-the-coverage-she-wants-1758019058 http://gawker.com/this-is-how-hillary-clinton-gets-the-cover... >Ergo - every decent news story amounts to 'bribery'? Where did you came with this weirdo conclusion? Bribing a journalist/media with scoops if something that happens, not something that ALWAYS happen -- so it doesn't apply to "every decent news story". For one, not every scoop has been leaked to the outlet breaking it by the company/organization that the scoop is about. >I think you bit your tongue on that one. No, he really didn't.
- edblarney 10y ago
  I'm fully aware of how it works. And no, it's not bribery. His comment was an unsubstantiated attack on the journalist who wrote that piece. That piece is by no means a 'puff piece' - it's just a normal bit of journalism, and it's actually reasonably good. Making statements like 'oh, they paid them for that piece' is derogatory and crude, and unless there's some obvious reason or merit to the argument, it need not be said.
rglullis 10y ago
> Every decent news story amounts to bribery? George Orwell's "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed: everything else is public relations" is the best filter to apply in these situations.