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> At the same time I'm don't understand how anyone with who works in tech and is thus capable of really understanding these things would voluntarily pick this s

by archon 10y ago

> At the same time I'm don't understand how anyone with who works in tech and is thus capable of really understanding these things would voluntarily pick this stack as their daily driver. Because it's way less work. Simple as that. Windows, in my experience, just works. The things about it that don't work are the exceptions. Windows gets out of my way and lets me work with minimal setup and maintenance. Linux, on the other hand, has been a pain in the butt every time I've tried to make it my primary desktop OS, and I have tried multiple times (granted, the last time was 6 years ago). Editing endless config files; building some obscure driver from source to make a device function correctly; and heaven help you if you want to do an OS version upgrade.

cyberpunk 10y ago
Well, my point was kinda exactly that things are better now..... Yours was the exact reason I used OSX for almost 6 years; it stopped being true and I switched back to linux at the end of last year. Since then, I've had exactly one time my laptop didn't wake up from sleep in around 2 months VS daily crashes and annoying popups from my last mac. Also lots of grateful family/friends who recieved all my old apple gear ;)
- jasonlotito 10y ago
  > things are better now Ubuntu 16.10 can't handle an external monitor with a DPI/resolution. And keeps throwing up error boxes after a fresh install on a Linux machine that came with Ubuntu by default. Better? Maybe. Good? Hardly.
mcbits 10y ago
After hopping back and forth between Windows and Linux for 6-12 months at a time for a many years, I've realized that I spend at least as much time dorking around with Windows and related software after a clean install as with desktop Linux distros. Still I keep hopping, because both worlds get too frustrating after a while. Out of the box, Ubuntu & friends (which have improved a lot in 6 years) are far more functional than Windows, assuming the hardware is properly detected and configured. When something goes askew, it's a toss-up whether it will be easier to fix on Windows or Linux. Familiarity/experience play a huge role here.
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idobai 10y ago
> Because it's way less work. Simple as that. Definitely FUD. > Windows, in my experience, just works. The things about it that don't work are the exceptions. Windows gets out of my way and lets me work with minimal setup and maintenance. Except that most of the time windows apps crash, freeze and the OS simply just get a blue screen. It also get slower if you don't restart it. The desktop is slow and buggy. It's really hard to tweak(try to turn off Alt+Ctrl+L without turning off the lock-screen). The entire registry-thing is just garbage, installing and removing software takes a lot of time. And those loooong forced updates... windows fans complain about how much time it takes to configure linux yet windows setup is such a PITA. I and my close ones only use linux but I've a windows7 desktop at work and I can't use it without a linux virtualbox because it's really uncomfortable and unstable. > Editing endless config files; building some obscure driver from source to make a device function correctly Tried gentoo or arch? Install a beginner's distro like Mint. > and heaven help you if you want to do an OS version upgrade. On ubuntu it never failed me or anyone I know. But simply reinstalling it is far faster, especially if you've a setup tool(or use the software backup program in mint).

by archon 10y ago

cyberpunk 10y ago

Well, my point was kinda exactly that things are better now..... Yours was the exact reason I used OSX for almost 6 years; it stopped being true and I switched back to linux at the end of last year. Since then, I've had exactly one time my laptop didn't wake up from sleep in around 2 months VS daily crashes and annoying popups from my last mac. Also lots of grateful family/friends who recieved all my old apple gear ;)

jasonlotito 10y ago
> things are better now Ubuntu 16.10 can't handle an external monitor with a DPI/resolution. And keeps throwing up error boxes after a fresh install on a Linux machine that came with Ubuntu by default. Better? Maybe. Good? Hardly.

mcbits 10y ago

After hopping back and forth between Windows and Linux for 6-12 months at a time for a many years, I've realized that I spend at least as much time dorking around with Windows and related software after a clean install as with desktop Linux distros. Still I keep hopping, because both worlds get too frustrating after a while. Out of the box, Ubuntu & friends (which have improved a lot in 6 years) are far more functional than Windows, assuming the hardware is properly detected and configured. When something goes askew, it's a toss-up whether it will be easier to fix on Windows or Linux. Familiarity/experience play a huge role here.

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idobai 10y ago

> Because it's way less work. Simple as that. Definitely FUD. > Windows, in my experience, just works. The things about it that don't work are the exceptions. Windows gets out of my way and lets me work with minimal setup and maintenance. Except that most of the time windows apps crash, freeze and the OS simply just get a blue screen. It also get slower if you don't restart it. The desktop is slow and buggy. It's really hard to tweak(try to turn off Alt+Ctrl+L without turning off the lock-screen). The entire registry-thing is just garbage, installing and removing software takes a lot of time. And those loooong forced updates... windows fans complain about how much time it takes to configure linux yet windows setup is such a PITA. I and my close ones only use linux but I've a windows7 desktop at work and I can't use it without a linux virtualbox because it's really uncomfortable and unstable. > Editing endless config files; building some obscure driver from source to make a device function correctly Tried gentoo or arch? Install a beginner's distro like Mint. > and heaven help you if you want to do an OS version upgrade. On ubuntu it never failed me or anyone I know. But simply reinstalling it is far faster, especially if you've a setup tool(or use the software backup program in mint).