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And what happens when you switch majors? All of your scholarship money gets revoked? Most schools do not require you to declare a major when applying or during

by dikdik 10y ago

And what happens when you switch majors? All of your scholarship money gets revoked? Most schools do not require you to declare a major when applying or during the freshman year. Most people that have a major in mind when entering college end up changing it as well. I think this is telling that MOST people do not go to college because they are super passionate about whatever subject. Most people go to college because they would like to find a job that will ensure them middle class wages. If we fixed the job market (ie prevent jobs from requiring a bachelors or masters when many high school graduates could be trained to do it AND increase wages not just at the top of the spectrum), I have a strong suspicion there wouldn't be so many people going to college for "bullshit" degrees and even if there were they would actually be able to pay their loans back in a timely manner.

brianwawok 10y ago
And what happens when you switch majors? All of your scholarship money gets revoked? Honestly, switching majors if a bit of a failure of the system. Ideally we would expose students to more parts of a major in High School, so they can make better decisions. Most high schools do not do a great job of this in the US. Most schools do not require you to declare a major when applying or during the freshman year. Most people that have a major in mind when entering college end up changing it as well. (Citation required for both of these). I have found it a mix on what schools require. Back when I applied to colleges (2000?), most colleges DID have me pick a major. A few pushed off till Sophomore year, but not most by any means. And MOST people did not switch majors when I was in school. Some did, and some dropped out, but hardly most. I think this is telling that MOST people do not go to college because they are super passionate about whatever subject. Most people go to college because they would like to find a job that will ensure them middle class wages. Great. So why do people major in History and "Business" and "Women's Studies"? None of these majors lead to a middle class job. If you want a middle class job, there are many majors almost guaranteed to get you there (i.e. education, nursing, programming.. all a big demand for people, all pay some form of middle class white collar wage). If we fixed the job market (ie prevent jobs from requiring a bachelors or masters when many high school graduates could be trained to do it AND increase wages not just at the top of the spectrum), I have a strong suspicion there wouldn't be so many people going to college for "bullshit" degrees and even if there were they would actually be able to pay their loans back in a timely manner. What? As an owner of a business, you would tell me I cannot require college degrees from my new hires? Fine, I will remove it from my job posting. During interviews I will ask what college the person went to. If I don't like the answer, I will send them home. You are NEVER going to legislate anything like this away. Businesses hiring want the best candidates. If they feel college students are better, then they will pick them. This would be perhaps the worst regulation you could possibly put on small businesses.

by dikdik 10y ago

brianwawok 10y ago

And what happens when you switch majors? All of your scholarship money gets revoked? Honestly, switching majors if a bit of a failure of the system. Ideally we would expose students to more parts of a major in High School, so they can make better decisions. Most high schools do not do a great job of this in the US. Most schools do not require you to declare a major when applying or during the freshman year. Most people that have a major in mind when entering college end up changing it as well. (Citation required for both of these). I have found it a mix on what schools require. Back when I applied to colleges (2000?), most colleges DID have me pick a major. A few pushed off till Sophomore year, but not most by any means. And MOST people did not switch majors when I was in school. Some did, and some dropped out, but hardly most. I think this is telling that MOST people do not go to college because they are super passionate about whatever subject. Most people go to college because they would like to find a job that will ensure them middle class wages. Great. So why do people major in History and "Business" and "Women's Studies"? None of these majors lead to a middle class job. If you want a middle class job, there are many majors almost guaranteed to get you there (i.e. education, nursing, programming.. all a big demand for people, all pay some form of middle class white collar wage). If we fixed the job market (ie prevent jobs from requiring a bachelors or masters when many high school graduates could be trained to do it AND increase wages not just at the top of the spectrum), I have a strong suspicion there wouldn't be so many people going to college for "bullshit" degrees and even if there were they would actually be able to pay their loans back in a timely manner. What? As an owner of a business, you would tell me I cannot require college degrees from my new hires? Fine, I will remove it from my job posting. During interviews I will ask what college the person went to. If I don't like the answer, I will send them home. You are NEVER going to legislate anything like this away. Businesses hiring want the best candidates. If they feel college students are better, then they will pick them. This would be perhaps the worst regulation you could possibly put on small businesses.