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Not sure how to say this without sounding harsh, but if you've been in tech for over a decade and you're still competing with bootcamp grads, you're doing somet
by GuiA 10y ago
Not sure how to say this without sounding harsh, but if you've been in tech for over a decade and you're still competing with bootcamp grads, you're doing something pretty wrong.
Bootcamp grads can cobble together a basic project, usually having seen only a very high level view of 2-3 programming languages (javascript, python, ruby, etc). The bootcamp doesn't give meaningful experience on software architecture, fundamental topics in CS, deep knowledge of languages and techniques, or even softer things like project management.
I would expect a 10 year professional, on the other hand, to have a very solid understanding of a few languages and technologies, knowledge of advanced technical topics, experience shipping real world projects, managing junior developers, etc.
So you are either severely underselling yourself, or you don't have 10 years of experience but rather 10x 1 year of experience.
- coldheartd 10y agoThanks. Bootcamp was just an example on how market is getting flooded. I work for a top tech company and I do have significant experience with big data and analytics; but everytime I look for a new job, it takes long to find the position and compensation that I like. I have PM experience as well and right now I am leading team of six developers. It's just that I am not filthy rich yet and idk if being in a tech role that is going to happen.
- lastofus 10y ago> It's just that I am not filthy rich yet and idk if being in a tech role that is going to happen. Perhaps the issue with not being "filthy rich" is you are looking for a salaried position when you should be looking for an ownership stake/founder role.
- rabidrat 10y agoI agree with you on this, but let's not forget that companies are still hiring from this diluted larger pool, and most companies (apparently) don't know why they would benefit from more senior people. So in effect, senior people are competing directly with bootcamp grads, who may be very well able to accomplish the first-order tasks that are set before them. You and I may know how grotesque this can turn out after a couple years, but it's hard to convince a hiring manager of your longer-term value when they're asking you to whiteboard FizzBuzz.
- taway_1212 10y ago> most companies (apparently) don't know why they would benefit from more senior people Citation needed? At most of my jobs, it was preferred to hire an experienced dev over a junior one. Time is money, competition does not sleep - if you waste time training juniors, your competition will be adding features (or whatever) faster than you.