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I'm actually surprised they let this much out. Nike is incredibly tight with just about everything. Amazing place to work though.

by Ocerge 10y ago

eikenberry 10y ago
> Amazing place to work though. I found it to be a terrible place to work. Highly political, bait-n-switch hiring tactics, constant re-orgs, no project ownership, lots of silver bullets... It had 1 redeeming quality, they paid well. Hated the place and so glad to have moved on.
- kilroy123 10y ago
  Agreed! I was totally bait-n-switched when I got hired there. Was placed on a horrible team that was a joke. Got out of there as soon as I could.
- Ocerge 10y ago
  Well, my 5-man team is great :) It's a gigantic company, so I'm not surprised. I've heard similar things about Intel.
- erikb 10y ago
  what means "lots of silver bullets" in this context?
  - eikenberry 10y ago
    For general background if you haven't heard the term. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Silver_Bullet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Silver_Bullet More specifically they'd buy into the idea that everything would be better if they just did/bought/adopted X. And they did this a lot with everything; technology, processes, organization principles, etc. During my short time there they adopted scrum, then extreme programming, then back to scrum, they switched their development from monoliths to extreme micro-services (one verb/service), they reorganized the teams 3 different times based on different principes... this continued ad nauseam.
    - billsmithaustin 10y ago
      I'm not sure IT is their core competence.
      - rch 10y ago
        Nope. That'd be marketing.
        ravitation 10y ago
        I know this is a day old, but... I'm not sure that's true. Strong marketing for sure, but I think they're more akin to Apple in this regard. Where (to use Steve Jobs' comparison) Pepsi's core competency is marketing (they rarely put out "new" products, so revenue is driven almost entirely by marketing), Nike's core competency is probably more apparel (specifically athletic) design - since, essentially, every new thing they release is a new product, and they release a lot of new things.
        rch 10y ago
        One first-hand anecdote: the women's track team at a university was given a generous sponsorship and all they had to do was wear free high-end Nike shoes. Unfortunately, the shoes caused physical discomfort for almost everyone, so the team collectively decided to only wear them in competition. My impression is that Nike apparel is designed to support the brand, not the athlete.
        ravitation 10y ago
        Would love to read more about this anecdote. Either way, I'm not sure that it points to marketing as a core competence over apparel design (though it may point the focus of the design away from the athlete).
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I'm actually surprised they let this much out. Nike is incredibly tight with just about everything. Amazing place to work though.

by Ocerge 10y ago

I'm actually surprised they let this much out. Nike is incredibly tight with just about everything. Amazing place to work though.

eikenberry 10y ago

> Amazing place to work though. I found it to be a terrible place to work. Highly political, bait-n-switch hiring tactics, constant re-orgs, no project ownership, lots of silver bullets... It had 1 redeeming quality, they paid well. Hated the place and so glad to have moved on.

kilroy123 10y ago
Agreed! I was totally bait-n-switched when I got hired there. Was placed on a horrible team that was a joke. Got out of there as soon as I could.
Ocerge 10y ago
Well, my 5-man team is great :) It's a gigantic company, so I'm not surprised. I've heard similar things about Intel.
erikb 10y ago
what means "lots of silver bullets" in this context?
- eikenberry 10y ago
  For general background if you haven't heard the term. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Silver_Bullet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Silver_Bullet More specifically they'd buy into the idea that everything would be better if they just did/bought/adopted X. And they did this a lot with everything; technology, processes, organization principles, etc. During my short time there they adopted scrum, then extreme programming, then back to scrum, they switched their development from monoliths to extreme micro-services (one verb/service), they reorganized the teams 3 different times based on different principes... this continued ad nauseam.
  - billsmithaustin 10y ago
    I'm not sure IT is their core competence.
    - rch 10y ago
      Nope. That'd be marketing.
      - ravitation 10y ago
        I know this is a day old, but... I'm not sure that's true. Strong marketing for sure, but I think they're more akin to Apple in this regard. Where (to use Steve Jobs' comparison) Pepsi's core competency is marketing (they rarely put out "new" products, so revenue is driven almost entirely by marketing), Nike's core competency is probably more apparel (specifically athletic) design - since, essentially, every new thing they release is a new product, and they release a lot of new things.
        rch 10y ago
        One first-hand anecdote: the women's track team at a university was given a generous sponsorship and all they had to do was wear free high-end Nike shoes. Unfortunately, the shoes caused physical discomfort for almost everyone, so the team collectively decided to only wear them in competition. My impression is that Nike apparel is designed to support the brand, not the athlete.
        ravitation 10y ago
        Would love to read more about this anecdote. Either way, I'm not sure that it points to marketing as a core competence over apparel design (though it may point the focus of the design away from the athlete).
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