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Yes, are technologists so effete that they can't handle a 5lb laptop anymore? Size constraints I understand as I fly on airplanes a lot, but weight constraints

Yes, are technologists so effete that they can't handle a 5lb laptop anymore? Size constraints I understand as I fly on airplanes a lot, but weight constraints can really be annoying. At least for higher end machines its okay for a lot of us to have an extra bit of weight for more features. It can be both.

coldtea 10y ago
>Yes, are technologists so effete that they can't handle a 5lb laptop anymore? Apparently they are. Just read this effete technologist's comment: I’m personally just hoping that I’m ahead of the curve in my strict requirement for “small and silent”. (...) I want my office to be quiet. The loudest thing in the room – by far – should be the occasional purring of the cat. And when I travel, I want to travel light. A notebook that weighs more than a kilo is simply not a good thing (yeah, I’m using the smaller 11″ macbook air, and I think weight could still be improved on, but at least it’s very close to the magical 1kg limit). -- Linus Torvalds
- bitexploder 10y ago
  Size and noise I am totally on board with. Just not the obsession with weight. And I am an ultra-light gram obsessed backpacker. I may just be an outlier or unusually strong. (Kidding on the last qualifier :))
  - bartvk 10y ago
    The focus on weight baffles me. Most _bags_ are now heavier than laptops.
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- dom0 10y ago
  > I want my office to be quiet. The loudest thing in the room – by far – should be the occasional purring of the cat. Any reasonably well built desktop PC does that. It's a matter of applying a modest amount of care when selecting and assembling components.
  - coldtea 10y ago
    >Any reasonably well built desktop PC does that. When it comes to off the shelve towers and laptops, you'd be surprised. And if you mean it's easy if one personally "selects and assembles components." you'd be surprised again on how atypical this is for the average PC buyer.
    - dom0 10y ago
      So? I claimed neither.
      - coldtea 10y ago
        Well, by writing "Any reasonably well built desktop PC does that" it seemed like you imply that most models available in the market do it as well.
        dom0 10y ago
        No, most aren't well built, but that's nothing specific to PCs or even computers. Most stuff is designed to be assembled easily, quickly and cheaply by unqualified workers. That doesn't per se contradict that the result is well built, but usually means that compromises are made to accomodate the assembly process, which diminishes other qualities of the product. E.g. you'll never find a high-end CPU cooler in a factory-assembled PCs, simply because they are too difficult and slow to mount. Compared to a simple push-pin or lever-mounted cooler these can have a dozen parts or more and require funneling screws through cutouts in the cooler itself etc. -- you just won't see that on an assembly line. There are also other issues, more specific to PCs, e.g. the standard case form factor does a poor job supplying graphics cards with fresh air. Other case form factors solve this (e.g. Silverstone has some; the "trash can" Mac Pro follows a similar concept), but tend to incur other compromises (and price tags).

coldtea 10y ago

>Yes, are technologists so effete that they can't handle a 5lb laptop anymore? Apparently they are. Just read this effete technologist's comment: I’m personally just hoping that I’m ahead of the curve in my strict requirement for “small and silent”. (...) I want my office to be quiet. The loudest thing in the room – by far – should be the occasional purring of the cat. And when I travel, I want to travel light. A notebook that weighs more than a kilo is simply not a good thing (yeah, I’m using the smaller 11″ macbook air, and I think weight could still be improved on, but at least it’s very close to the magical 1kg limit). -- Linus Torvalds

bitexploder 10y ago
Size and noise I am totally on board with. Just not the obsession with weight. And I am an ultra-light gram obsessed backpacker. I may just be an outlier or unusually strong. (Kidding on the last qualifier :))
- bartvk 10y ago
  The focus on weight baffles me. Most _bags_ are now heavier than laptops.
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dom0 10y ago
> I want my office to be quiet. The loudest thing in the room – by far – should be the occasional purring of the cat. Any reasonably well built desktop PC does that. It's a matter of applying a modest amount of care when selecting and assembling components.
- coldtea 10y ago
  >Any reasonably well built desktop PC does that. When it comes to off the shelve towers and laptops, you'd be surprised. And if you mean it's easy if one personally "selects and assembles components." you'd be surprised again on how atypical this is for the average PC buyer.
  - dom0 10y ago
    So? I claimed neither.
    - coldtea 10y ago
      Well, by writing "Any reasonably well built desktop PC does that" it seemed like you imply that most models available in the market do it as well.
      - dom0 10y ago
        No, most aren't well built, but that's nothing specific to PCs or even computers. Most stuff is designed to be assembled easily, quickly and cheaply by unqualified workers. That doesn't per se contradict that the result is well built, but usually means that compromises are made to accomodate the assembly process, which diminishes other qualities of the product. E.g. you'll never find a high-end CPU cooler in a factory-assembled PCs, simply because they are too difficult and slow to mount. Compared to a simple push-pin or lever-mounted cooler these can have a dozen parts or more and require funneling screws through cutouts in the cooler itself etc. -- you just won't see that on an assembly line. There are also other issues, more specific to PCs, e.g. the standard case form factor does a poor job supplying graphics cards with fresh air. Other case form factors solve this (e.g. Silverstone has some; the "trash can" Mac Pro follows a similar concept), but tend to incur other compromises (and price tags).