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>Say, are you referring to the Extremist Moslems, or Extremist Christians? I was referring to 9/11, obviously, because that resulted in our modern security sta

>Say, are you referring to the Extremist Moslems, or Extremist Christians? I was referring to 9/11, obviously, because that resulted in our modern security state. >That whole innocent until proven guilty in a court of law... It doesn't count for non-Christians, does it? I'm not sure how 'innocent until proven guilty' applies here. Are you saying we don't need any airport security because that presumes guilt? >Both have their fair share of "incidents". Perhaps you've never heard of the KKK? They're Protestant Christians. Ok. I suspect I know what you're getting at, but you're injecting your skewed interpretation on what I wrote, as opposed to what I actually wrote. >That's what this all really comes down to. Not while christians, eh? I'm sure there are all kinds of people that are willing to murder others and airport security targets them as well. EDIT: I have to say, I really dislike the bigoteer tone in your response.

hwillis 10y ago
'Innocent until proven guilty' means you don't get detained for six hours when you want to cancel your flight and go home.
kefka 10y ago
> I'm not sure how 'innocent until proven guilty' applies here. Are you saying we don't need any airport security because that presumes guilt? How about effective airport security, and not the facade of "security" we see. AKA: Oh looks a BROWN PERSON! And holding for someone for 6 hours without due process is a good thing? Yeah, no. Unless they're not a white christian. And that is the underlying message, going all the way up to the Trump Islam Ban. > I have to say, I really dislike the bigoteer tone in your response. OOhhh tone police. It's OK. I really hate bigots. (And having live in Indiana most of my life, am confident when I spot them. Guess what? Spotted one.)
- dang 10y ago
  You've been crossing into incivility in this thread. That breaks the site guidelines, regardless of how wrong someone else is. Why? Because the wrong things going on in the world, wrong though they are, don't justify destroying this site. Treating other users like this leads to a downward spiral of retaliation that leads to destroying the site. If you're commenting here, it's your job to make sure that doesn't happen. So please post civilly and substantively, or not at all. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html

hwillis 10y ago

'Innocent until proven guilty' means you don't get detained for six hours when you want to cancel your flight and go home.

kefka 10y ago

> I'm not sure how 'innocent until proven guilty' applies here. Are you saying we don't need any airport security because that presumes guilt? How about effective airport security, and not the facade of "security" we see. AKA: Oh looks a BROWN PERSON! And holding for someone for 6 hours without due process is a good thing? Yeah, no. Unless they're not a white christian. And that is the underlying message, going all the way up to the Trump Islam Ban. > I have to say, I really dislike the bigoteer tone in your response. OOhhh tone police. It's OK. I really hate bigots. (And having live in Indiana most of my life, am confident when I spot them. Guess what? Spotted one.)

dang 10y ago
You've been crossing into incivility in this thread. That breaks the site guidelines, regardless of how wrong someone else is. Why? Because the wrong things going on in the world, wrong though they are, don't justify destroying this site. Treating other users like this leads to a downward spiral of retaliation that leads to destroying the site. If you're commenting here, it's your job to make sure that doesn't happen. So please post civilly and substantively, or not at all. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html