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Ha, wow! Guess any parent who doesn't let their kids have absolute freedom is a fascist now. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
by polishTar 10y ago
Ha, wow! Guess any parent who doesn't let their kids have absolute freedom is a fascist now. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- Kenji 10y agoKids used to get a slap when they misbehaved. Now they face surveillance and psychological torture e.g. by taking away the devices with which they are in contact with their friends and play games. If I was a kid, I'd take the slap over the other things any time of the day. But both are wrong. Thank god I am grown up now and actually have human rights (that I can enforce). I wouldn't want to be a kid nowadays.
- jzwinck 10y agoIf children having lack of access to digital devices is psychological torture, our grandparents truly were monsters. Children have rights but they do not have liberty.
- Kenji 10y agoYou don't understand. Imagine that some of your best friends are in another country and your contact to them is cut by means of removing your digital devices. Since children also cannot be allowed outside alone anymore, because the world is dangerous, this is truly like solitary confinement. Also, to reduce your argument ad absurdum: Would you take away the shoes of your kid because well, our ancestors once walked around without shoes so it seems like an appropriate punishment. Relative differences are the keywords here. Taking away something one is accustomed to causes pain.
- darkstar999 10y agoHave you ever heard of "being grounded"? A punishment where parents restrict actions of the kid including toys and social interaction? This is a concept regardless of technology.
- Kenji 10y agoYes. And it, too, is psychological torture. I know, people call it educating and raising a kid. Hackernews users don't understand my point because it is too progressive and subtle to understand. I stand firmly for children's rights not to be harmed, all the way through. All the way.
- jasonkolb 10y agoI am curious to know how you would prevent a child from running into the road given that said child isn't yet mentally developed enough to understand the risk. And they will do it over and over regardless of how well or in how many different ways you try to explain the risk to them.
- DanBC 10y agoJust checking, but are you saying it's okay to hit a child in that situation?
- icebraining 10y agoWho said anything about hitting a child? We were talking about grounding them.
- DanBC 10y agoKenji said here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13901382 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13901382 > Kids used to get a slap when they misbehaved. [...] I'd take the slap over the other things any time of the day. And when this specific instance (child runs into road) has come up before there are always people saying they'd hit the child. So, I'm just checking if that's what jasonkolb meant or not.
- carapace 10y agoCf. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parenting#In_indigenous_American_cultures https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parenting#In_indigenous_Americ...
- URSpider94 10y agoYes, can't we go back to the good days when we just physically assaulted our children to teach them a lesson? sarcasm
- icebraining 10y agoThe parent poster specifically said "both are wrong".
- adamnemecek 10y agoIndeed.
- theDoug 10y agoCAKE FOR DINNER OR YOU'RE A MEANY!
- icebraining 10y agoDon't put words in people's mouths. adamnemecek complained about these specific types of products, not about all constrains on the freedom of kids.