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I am appalled by the casual sexism and racism of the parent comment. "esp. in a small town - you'll sometimes see a drop-dead '10' Swedish model working behind

I am appalled by the casual sexism and racism of the parent comment. "esp. in a small town - you'll sometimes see a drop-dead '10' Swedish model working behind the counter" --> Is it okay to refer to a person by a sexist score? Does the HN community condones this and at the same time rally against sexual harassment at statups? How is this comment not dead yet?

postsantum 10y ago
There is no mention of gender or race in the parent comment. Here is only your opinion implying only females can be models and that being an illegal immigrant is somehow tied to a race.
edblarney 10y ago
Yes - sometimes people refer to people who are attractive as 'drop dead hot' or 'bombshells' or '10's. These are colloquial terms for how we sometimes refer to attractiveness. Your insinuation that this is 'sexist' is completely wrong. And even if I did refer to gender, it would be fine. Crude, maybe, but sexist. No. "Does the HN community condones this and at the same time rally against sexual harassment at statups?" Referring to some unidentified people as 'drop dead hot' is not remotely harassing, and your indication that this should somehow be screened is wrong, and problematic. I'll suggest that your position might be the impetus for why so many people are weary, or skeptical of some movements concerning 'sexism in the valley'. And FYI in no way did I imply that somehow immigrants cannot be 'hot'. I'm indicating that in some places 'menial jobs' are done by otherwise 'high social status' individuals because of the social dynamic. In most places, you don't find attractive people working at McDonalds - because they will work in retail, in funner, better environments consistent with their sense of identity. Or bartending/waitressing where their attractiveness yields significantly better outcomes in tipping - and frankly - even in ordering (attractive staff make people spend more). Though migrants can definitely be 'hot' - individuals who are undocumented are generally 'very low social status' and are almost excluded from most of the social context. It's not a moral statement - being 'low social status' does not imply lower human worth - it's an observation of a social system. All animals are social, and develop social hierarchy - it's a fundamental dynamic of nature.
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postsantum 10y ago

There is no mention of gender or race in the parent comment. Here is only your opinion implying only females can be models and that being an illegal immigrant is somehow tied to a race.

edblarney 10y ago

Yes - sometimes people refer to people who are attractive as 'drop dead hot' or 'bombshells' or '10's. These are colloquial terms for how we sometimes refer to attractiveness. Your insinuation that this is 'sexist' is completely wrong. And even if I did refer to gender, it would be fine. Crude, maybe, but sexist. No. "Does the HN community condones this and at the same time rally against sexual harassment at statups?" Referring to some unidentified people as 'drop dead hot' is not remotely harassing, and your indication that this should somehow be screened is wrong, and problematic. I'll suggest that your position might be the impetus for why so many people are weary, or skeptical of some movements concerning 'sexism in the valley'. And FYI in no way did I imply that somehow immigrants cannot be 'hot'. I'm indicating that in some places 'menial jobs' are done by otherwise 'high social status' individuals because of the social dynamic. In most places, you don't find attractive people working at McDonalds - because they will work in retail, in funner, better environments consistent with their sense of identity. Or bartending/waitressing where their attractiveness yields significantly better outcomes in tipping - and frankly - even in ordering (attractive staff make people spend more). Though migrants can definitely be 'hot' - individuals who are undocumented are generally 'very low social status' and are almost excluded from most of the social context. It's not a moral statement - being 'low social status' does not imply lower human worth - it's an observation of a social system. All animals are social, and develop social hierarchy - it's a fundamental dynamic of nature.

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