> I think our profession is way, way too detached from the consequences of the applications of our work. Are (using your example) Cisco and/or Oracle offering

> I think our profession is way, way too detached from the consequences of the applications of our work. Are (using your example) Cisco and/or Oracle offering material support, other than making the products that are used? If not, I don't see how they could prevent the government from using their products - the government would just buy the products through a cutout if they had to.