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A revolution is not going to happen in western countries: It's easy to appease the masses and provide for basic needs and entertainment, birthrates are too low
by UweSchmidt 10y ago
A revolution is not going to happen in western countries: It's easy to appease the masses and provide for basic needs and entertainment, birthrates are too low to really fill the streets with angry people, surveillance enables the powers that be to identify and isolate agitators and monitor movements.
At the same time western countries are still democratic enough so that things can be changed.
- frgtpsswrdlame 10y agoThis is just another twist of an effectiveness argument, it does nothing to address the real issue here, so I'm just going to repeat this because I'd really like an answer. >It seems to me that when I make this argument I run into people saying, "but you can't win anyway" when what really bothers them is some deeper political belief. What is that? What bothers you about the way I've framed the debate?
- UweSchmidt 10y agoMost people wouldn't want to fight and die. Sucks. Also you could end up with some dictator when the dust settles.
- frgtpsswrdlame 10y agoThis is just more effectiveness stuff... Here let me pose a situation: The year is 2011, the Arab Spring is starting up and by some weird quirk of history or legal loophole, the Syrians will be having a referendum on gun control. They are debating about whether they should have gun control. One side says they need guns in order to oppose their tyrannical government, the other that they need to ban guns so as to prevent violence from spreading through city streets. You are called in as an advisor, what do you say?