>Do they mean that same capitalism that brings >1,000,000 Chinese people out poverty every month? The idea that by pointing to some successes, it justifies the

>Do they mean that same capitalism that brings >1,000,000 Chinese people out poverty every month? The idea that by pointing to some successes, it justifies the whole system of appropriating labour for profit is utterly falacious and false. I hope you can see that it's not sound reasoning. A system can have merits; Marx was very clear that Capitalism has various merits, especially over its predecessors. His idea was that there is a further reachable goal. You have made no effort to dismiss this other than by saying "what we have now is pretty ok". >Try talking to someone who lived through one of them. Why would their experience be relevant to reformulations in theory? To be clear, I'm not advocating for Soviet-style Communism.