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The problem is why should I trust them, they exist to lie cheat and spy.

• willvarfar 10y ago
  If they did do it, they'd just keep quiet. When POTUS proves it, they just smile smugly. To say they didn't, and then get found to have done, will be infinitely worse. It just makes no sense.
  • louthy 10y ago
    Indeed, there's nothing to be gained from denying it. They could have kept totally quiet, and everyone would just assume 'that's what spy agencies do'. A denial, especially in these very strong terms, never happens.
  • _yosefk 10y ago
    It wasn't infinitely bad for James Clapper to have lied under oath about NSA's data collection. It wasn't infinitely bad for the US to have been caught spying on Merkel. Etc. etc. Everybody spies on everybody, everybody accuses everybody, everybody lies about both, gets caught and mostly doesn't care. The allegations prove just as much as the denials - nothing. Eventually one side will be caught lying, and nothing will happen to them.
• SideburnsOfDoom 10y ago
  You should not trust GCHQ. But if you decide that they are definitely lying, you are trusting Donald Trump. Do you?
  • salesguy222 10y ago
    It's possible for broken clocks to be right every once in a while, depending on the type of clock. Like if Donald Trump said "to most people in our area right now, the sky appears blue", he would probably be right, despite his general propensity for lying and manipulating other topics
    • SideburnsOfDoom 10y ago
      > It's possible for broken clocks to be right every once in a while Trump's nonsensical wiretap allegations, are on the other hand a quite obvious attempt to "throw a dead cat on the table" to divert from other issues. Deflective bluster is what he does. http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2013/11/24/the-dead-cat-strategy-how-the-tories-hope-to-win-the-next-el http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2013/11/24/the-dead-cat-stra...