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Is this the same Dan as the author of qmail? I feel I cannot use that software anymore in good conscience
by simplehuman 10y ago
Is this the same Dan as the author of qmail? I feel I cannot use that software anymore in good conscience
- poikniok 10y agoShouldn't we wait to hear Dan's side of the story before we get out the pitchforks just yet?
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- madhadron 10y agoWhat I want to know is what Jacob Appelbaum is blackmailing Dan Bernstein and Tanja Lange with.
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- clearly_a_shill 10y agoI have seen instances of Jake behaving inappropriately in front of DJB, and I'm pretty sure he saw. I've heard Jake bragging about his sexual exploits on numerous occasions, including the sawzall story. Not posting under my normal account for obvious reasons.
- flukus 10y agoAny more detail? There is a big gap between inappropriate behavior and sexual harassment and/or the assault allegations made.
- knieveltech 10y agoIs there now? By all means describe what objectively differentiates inappropriate from harassment.
- flukus 10y agoFarting is inappropriate but not harassment (usually). There is a huge range of behaviour that's can be inappropriate but not harassment.
- joshuamorton 10y agoHow exactly is farting inappropriate?
- flukus 10y agoDepends on context, but lifting your leg and letting rip is generally considered inappropriate during a business meeting.
- joshuamorton 10y agoRight, but I'd argue that doing that is also something that could be construed as harassing your coworkers. Perhaps not in the common usage sense, but certainly in the "spitting on someone is assault and grabbing a coworkers ass is sexual harassment" sense. I wouldn't consider letting out a fart anymore inappropriate than excusing oneself to go to the bathroom, but doing either in a way that you know will disrupt and cause coworkers discomfort is inappropriate and harassing, not because of the act itself, but because of how you handle it.
- sethherr 10y agoThat's a reasonable example, but doesn't answer the question: what differentiates it? I'd say it's something like "involving people without their consent" - e.g. farting on them. Which includes forcing people to listen to tales of your sexual exploits.
- flukus 10y agoI'd disagree discussing your sexual exploits is harassment either, up to a point. It's harassment when it's clearly unwelcome and directed at a specific individual. So if we sit next to each other and I keep farting even though you don't like it, it's not harassment because it's not directed at you, but if I kept walking over to your area just to fart, that's harassment. I would have thought the distinction would be obvious considering the overlap between HN readers and the socially awkward.
- awesomepantsm 10y agoThe implication of the article is that Dan has had more than 12 weeks to make his side of the story known, and has chosen not to. What's Dan's side of the story going to be that would change your mind about raising pitchforks? That actually Jacob wasn't fired for sexual harassment from a previous job?
- SomeStupidPoint 10y agoIsn't the allegation he was forced/kicked out of two positions -- kink.com and TOR?
- DashRattlesnake 10y ago> Is this the same Dan as the author of qmail? I feel I cannot use that software anymore in good conscience Me too. I'm immediately switching back to sendmail and rot13 encryption, two technologies unstained by any connection, no matter how minor, to scandalous allegations.