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Even half a minute minute is a hell of a lot of time and overwhelmingly better than no notice. Currently airplanes sometimes only turn on the sign after the tur

Even half a minute minute is a hell of a lot of time and overwhelmingly better than no notice. Currently airplanes sometimes only turn on the sign after the turbulence has already started. Also, it's not like they never have no idea which airplanes are around them until they visually see the airplane. They could turn on the sign earlier if they know earlier.

M_Grey 10y ago
I mean you say that, but wasn't this an accident predicated on not being aware of the positions of other planes? You're basically saying that we should plan for accidents, because wearing a seatbelt is somehow... what? Cumbersome? If your neurological integrity isn't worth some hours in a seat, I guess that's your choice to make though.
- wfunction 10y ago
  > I mean you say that, but wasn't this an accident predicated on not being aware of the positions of other planes? Uh, no? "an Airbus A380-800 was observed by the crew passing 1000 feet above" http://avherald.com/h?article=4a5e80f3 http://avherald.com/h?article=4a5e80f3 > You're basically saying that we should plan for accidents Yes, whenever possible. It should make sense, really. > because ...because it's sometimes possible and predictable, in which case it logically makes sense to plan for it. > wearing a seatbelt is somehow... what? Cumbersome? Not because of that. But yes, it is cumbersome. Makes it harder to relax, sleep, get up, etc... is this really that shocking to you?
  - M_Grey 10y ago
    "According to information The Aviation Herald received on March 4th 2017 the CL-604 passed 1000 feet below an Airbus A380-800 while enroute over the Arabian Sea, when a short time later (1-2 minutes)" They saw the plane, and 1-2 minutes later... bang. We already went over this.
    - wfunction 10y ago
      > They saw the plane, and 1-2 minutes later... bang. We already went over this. We did, that's why it made zero sense that you said this was predicated on not being aware of the positions of other planes. They were aware of this a full 1-2 minutes earlier at least. They could've turned on the sign. The solution was totally implementable.
      - M_Grey 10y ago
        I think we've reached that point at which I'd be happy to buckle my seatbelt and let you walk around the cabin to your heart's content. I am not your parent.
        Moru 10y ago
        Except if he lands on you, that isn't very funny
        ptaipale 10y ago
        When I sit in the same cabin, and I'm buckled up, the previous poster (or his body parts) will be bouncing all over the seats of the same cabin, which is a danger to me. So I still prefer that he also buckles up.
        M_Grey 10y ago
        As do I, but he's a poster on HN and not on a flight with me, and I have considerations for the value of my time and the integrity of my sanity when dealing with people who think that "intentionally obtuse" is a position in argument.
lathiat 10y ago
In my experience (particularly on Emirates) they generally turn the seatbelt sign on before the turbulence because they can generally predict it on radar. It is a little annoying when you have 20-30 minute seatbelt periods with barely any actual turbulence but there you go.
- M_Grey 10y ago
  This is true for any airline, but there is something (like the story in this case) called "CAT" or Clear Air Turbulence.

M_Grey 10y ago

I mean you say that, but wasn't this an accident predicated on not being aware of the positions of other planes? You're basically saying that we should plan for accidents, because wearing a seatbelt is somehow... what? Cumbersome? If your neurological integrity isn't worth some hours in a seat, I guess that's your choice to make though.

wfunction 10y ago
> I mean you say that, but wasn't this an accident predicated on not being aware of the positions of other planes? Uh, no? "an Airbus A380-800 was observed by the crew passing 1000 feet above" http://avherald.com/h?article=4a5e80f3 http://avherald.com/h?article=4a5e80f3 > You're basically saying that we should plan for accidents Yes, whenever possible. It should make sense, really. > because ...because it's sometimes possible and predictable, in which case it logically makes sense to plan for it. > wearing a seatbelt is somehow... what? Cumbersome? Not because of that. But yes, it is cumbersome. Makes it harder to relax, sleep, get up, etc... is this really that shocking to you?
- M_Grey 10y ago
  "According to information The Aviation Herald received on March 4th 2017 the CL-604 passed 1000 feet below an Airbus A380-800 while enroute over the Arabian Sea, when a short time later (1-2 minutes)" They saw the plane, and 1-2 minutes later... bang. We already went over this.
  - wfunction 10y ago
    > They saw the plane, and 1-2 minutes later... bang. We already went over this. We did, that's why it made zero sense that you said this was predicated on not being aware of the positions of other planes. They were aware of this a full 1-2 minutes earlier at least. They could've turned on the sign. The solution was totally implementable.
    - M_Grey 10y ago
      I think we've reached that point at which I'd be happy to buckle my seatbelt and let you walk around the cabin to your heart's content. I am not your parent.
      - Moru 10y ago
        Except if he lands on you, that isn't very funny
      - ptaipale 10y ago
        When I sit in the same cabin, and I'm buckled up, the previous poster (or his body parts) will be bouncing all over the seats of the same cabin, which is a danger to me. So I still prefer that he also buckles up.
        M_Grey 10y ago
        As do I, but he's a poster on HN and not on a flight with me, and I have considerations for the value of my time and the integrity of my sanity when dealing with people who think that "intentionally obtuse" is a position in argument.

lathiat 10y ago

In my experience (particularly on Emirates) they generally turn the seatbelt sign on before the turbulence because they can generally predict it on radar. It is a little annoying when you have 20-30 minute seatbelt periods with barely any actual turbulence but there you go.

M_Grey 10y ago
This is true for any airline, but there is something (like the story in this case) called "CAT" or Clear Air Turbulence.