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"The rejection rates for SBIR's are commonly 90%+ because there are far more proposals than dollars." I know. But I thought it is based on merit. If you try to

by tiatia 10y ago

"The rejection rates for SBIR's are commonly 90%+ because there are far more proposals than dollars." I know. But I thought it is based on merit. If you try to tell me it is a lottery it should require very few people. "Now you want to burn down the agency because you had two SBIR proposals rejected," Reading is not your stength. Somebody explained me, how grants are given and I don't think I like the idea.

yodon 10y ago
You're a scientist and a quantitative thinker. You need to analyze this domain like a quantitative thinker instead of simply reacting emotionally. In situations where there are far more good ideas than funding, good ideas will be rejected. This is mathematics. No other outcome is possible (well, technically you could also distribute the same total resources among all good ideas instead of among a subset of good ideas, but spreading the same total budget across a much larger number of projects means a total of zero projects receive adequate funding to be completed and the resulting outcome is worse than the subset-funding outcome). Good ideas being rejected doesn't mean it's "just a lottery" where no work needs to be done to select the ideas that are to be funded. Most ideas are not good ideas, even in situations where there are more good ideas than resources. Filtering down to that group of good ideas still takes considerable time and effort, even in the case where most of the good ideas will in the end not be funded because there are more good ideas than resources. Most people don't get funded. Most people with good ideas don't get funded. That's not the fault of the system. It's mathematics that no one involved in the process wants but everyone involved in the process has to work with.
- tiatia 10y ago
  "In situations where there are far more good ideas than funding, good ideas will be rejected. This is mathematics." This was not a vague idea, this was a project that was very advanced. Obviously nothing came out of the funded ideas or I would have heard about. But again. I was told how this grants are given and I am glad I don't waste my time with it anymore. I played Hare and Tortoise too long already in my life. I became successful when I stopped playing it.

by tiatia 10y ago

yodon 10y ago

You're a scientist and a quantitative thinker. You need to analyze this domain like a quantitative thinker instead of simply reacting emotionally. In situations where there are far more good ideas than funding, good ideas will be rejected. This is mathematics. No other outcome is possible (well, technically you could also distribute the same total resources among all good ideas instead of among a subset of good ideas, but spreading the same total budget across a much larger number of projects means a total of zero projects receive adequate funding to be completed and the resulting outcome is worse than the subset-funding outcome). Good ideas being rejected doesn't mean it's "just a lottery" where no work needs to be done to select the ideas that are to be funded. Most ideas are not good ideas, even in situations where there are more good ideas than resources. Filtering down to that group of good ideas still takes considerable time and effort, even in the case where most of the good ideas will in the end not be funded because there are more good ideas than resources. Most people don't get funded. Most people with good ideas don't get funded. That's not the fault of the system. It's mathematics that no one involved in the process wants but everyone involved in the process has to work with.

tiatia 10y ago
"In situations where there are far more good ideas than funding, good ideas will be rejected. This is mathematics." This was not a vague idea, this was a project that was very advanced. Obviously nothing came out of the funded ideas or I would have heard about. But again. I was told how this grants are given and I am glad I don't waste my time with it anymore. I played Hare and Tortoise too long already in my life. I became successful when I stopped playing it.