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A blanket "never use AWS" isn't going to address it constructively. But that's not what the commenter was saying, of course. More like (paraphrasing) "before

A blanket "never use AWS" isn't going to address it constructively. But that's not what the commenter was saying, of course. More like (paraphrasing) "before you go full-hog on AWS, do some simple math first." Which an amazingly high percentage of people neglect to do, these days.

EnFinlay 10y ago
> At this point simply not using AWS is a competitive advantage.
- logfromblammo 10y ago
  I read this as suggesting that a simple arbitrary rule to not use AWS is likely to save both money and also the time that would otherwise be spent tuning your use of AWS to cost less money. Your time is valuable too. It could be spent developing something novel instead of messing around with server configuration.
hinkley 10y ago
Weeks of work can save hours of meetings.
- thecrazyone 10y ago
  interesting thing to say, but did you plan for it to mean something in this context? :)
  - kafkaesq 10y ago
    Nothing special - just the whole "Yeah, saw your email† ... look, I'm so busy, did you get the site up and running again? I'll get back to you on this after my vacation" management style which seems to drive a great many "decisions" that are made in this realm. And on which AWS, implicitly, banks a great deal of its business model on. † About the monthly you-know-what bill now well into 5 figures, and climbing.
nulagrithom 10y ago
> before you go full-hog on AWS, do some simple math first I had a coworker who was turned off of AWS by clicking the "Dedicated IP" checkbox when deploying a CloudFlare distribution with SSL. One month and $600[0] later he swears up and down that AWS is the devil. You can spend an amazing amount of money on AWS by accident and/or without need. Hourly pricing is a huge footgun. Best to run everything through the "Simple" Monthly Calculator: https://calculator.s3.amazonaws.com/index.html https://calculator.s3.amazonaws.com/index.html 0: https://aws.amazon.com/cloudfront/pricing/ https://aws.amazon.com/cloudfront/pricing/

EnFinlay 10y ago

> At this point simply not using AWS is a competitive advantage.

logfromblammo 10y ago
I read this as suggesting that a simple arbitrary rule to not use AWS is likely to save both money and also the time that would otherwise be spent tuning your use of AWS to cost less money. Your time is valuable too. It could be spent developing something novel instead of messing around with server configuration.

hinkley 10y ago

Weeks of work can save hours of meetings.

thecrazyone 10y ago
interesting thing to say, but did you plan for it to mean something in this context? :)
- kafkaesq 10y ago
  Nothing special - just the whole "Yeah, saw your email† ... look, I'm so busy, did you get the site up and running again? I'll get back to you on this after my vacation" management style which seems to drive a great many "decisions" that are made in this realm. And on which AWS, implicitly, banks a great deal of its business model on. † About the monthly you-know-what bill now well into 5 figures, and climbing.

nulagrithom 10y ago

> before you go full-hog on AWS, do some simple math first I had a coworker who was turned off of AWS by clicking the "Dedicated IP" checkbox when deploying a CloudFlare distribution with SSL. One month and $600[0] later he swears up and down that AWS is the devil. You can spend an amazing amount of money on AWS by accident and/or without need. Hourly pricing is a huge footgun. Best to run everything through the "Simple" Monthly Calculator: https://calculator.s3.amazonaws.com/index.html https://calculator.s3.amazonaws.com/index.html 0: https://aws.amazon.com/cloudfront/pricing/ https://aws.amazon.com/cloudfront/pricing/