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>It's so much easier to just pay people a decent wage, include it in the cost of things and then not have the pressure of tipping. Yea but customers don't get

>It's so much easier to just pay people a decent wage, include it in the cost of things and then not have the pressure of tipping. Yea but customers don't get to decide how much employees are paid. What would really happen is that people who normally get tips would just lose income. Their pay will probably go up, but not enough to cover it. Waitresses make much more than regular unskilled labors. Customers lose because we end up paying more, but it's at least going to a real person working for a living.

greggyb 10y ago
> What would really happen is that people who normally get tips would just lose income. Their pay will probably go up, but not enough to cover it. Waitresses make much more than regular unskilled labors. This is very true. My sister and I waited tables in college and each averaged $20-$25/hour in just tips. Adding on the ~$5 wage, we each made enough to graduate with no debt (we both went to a state university). We did not work at very high end restaurants (we each worked at the same two at the same time). If our employers decided to go no-tip, we would have very quickly quit and found new positions, because there's no way our employers would have paid waitstaff $20+/hr. No-tip would be a pay decrease for most of the waitstaff I've known.