As someone who actually uses scrollbars, I like scrollbars to be wide enough to actually use, especially when they're not against the edge of a maximized window

As someone who actually uses scrollbars, I like scrollbars to be wide enough to actually use, especially when they're not against the edge of a maximized window. The pellet in your second image isn't the worst, but I'm pretty sure anyone implementing "gorgeous" 5-pixel slivers never uses them or they'd have permanent black eyes from punching themselves in the face.