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> "We're out of fish", he said, motioning to the bar. :-) I don't get it.

by adwn 10y ago

allengeorge 10y ago
I assume it means that the act of _sourcing_ something at the time it's needed is a much harder problem than it appears; simply because a source exists does not mean that it's the right source, or that it's even stocked.
the-dude 10y ago
JIT
mikekchar 10y ago
We had an empty plate. We send that plate back to the bar. The sushi chef slices fish and puts it on the plate. If he goes below a certain amount of tuna, then he sends an empty tuna container to the sous chef. The sous chef takes tuna from the refrigerator and puts it in the container. If the refrigerator goes below a certain amount of tuna, the manager writes a note and puts it in an envelope for the fish monger. The fish monger gets the note and sends more tuna. If the fish monger goes below a certain amount of tuna, he sends a note to his agent at the fish auction. The agent at the fish auction buys a tuna and sends it to the fish monger. When the tuna at the auction is all sold, the fishermen bring more from their boats. When the boats are empty, the fishermen go out to sea to catch more tuna. Only, we've caught almost all the tuna in the ocean, so please make sure to ask for something else at the bar. Edit: Just to be clear, that was not Tom's point. His point was that the plate was empty, so by simply noticing it is empty, we can ask for more fish which "pulls" all the activity that ends up producing fish on our plate. In a kanban system, you only really need to worry about how much inventory you want to carry at each station and the connection to the previous station.
- coldpie 10y ago
  I think the joke only works if you know what "kanban" is. Even with your explanation, I still don't know what "kanban" is or how it relates to fish.
  - kamaal 10y ago
    You need fish. You ask for it. If you don't ask for it you don't get it. Its just a organized way of building a todo list which has a few features like: 1. Priority. 2. Ability to see the work-item move through various stages of work(Accepted, in-progress, blocked-by, done). 3. Means to track the progress of the work-item. 4. Means to the improve the process through methods described by the process.
_pmf_ 10y ago
> I don't get it. That's actually a very meta reply (like that joke about UDP).

> "We're out of fish", he said, motioning to the bar. :-) I don't get it.

by adwn 10y ago

> "We're out of fish", he said, motioning to the bar. :-) I don't get it.

I assume it means that the act of _sourcing_ something at the time it's needed is a much harder problem than it appears; simply because a source exists does not mean that it's the right source, or that it's even stocked.

the-dude 10y ago

JIT

mikekchar 10y ago

We had an empty plate. We send that plate back to the bar. The sushi chef slices fish and puts it on the plate. If he goes below a certain amount of tuna, then he sends an empty tuna container to the sous chef. The sous chef takes tuna from the refrigerator and puts it in the container. If the refrigerator goes below a certain amount of tuna, the manager writes a note and puts it in an envelope for the fish monger. The fish monger gets the note and sends more tuna. If the fish monger goes below a certain amount of tuna, he sends a note to his agent at the fish auction. The agent at the fish auction buys a tuna and sends it to the fish monger. When the tuna at the auction is all sold, the fishermen bring more from their boats. When the boats are empty, the fishermen go out to sea to catch more tuna. Only, we've caught almost all the tuna in the ocean, so please make sure to ask for something else at the bar. Edit: Just to be clear, that was not Tom's point. His point was that the plate was empty, so by simply noticing it is empty, we can ask for more fish which "pulls" all the activity that ends up producing fish on our plate. In a kanban system, you only really need to worry about how much inventory you want to carry at each station and the connection to the previous station.

coldpie 10y ago
I think the joke only works if you know what "kanban" is. Even with your explanation, I still don't know what "kanban" is or how it relates to fish.
- kamaal 10y ago
  You need fish. You ask for it. If you don't ask for it you don't get it. Its just a organized way of building a todo list which has a few features like: 1. Priority. 2. Ability to see the work-item move through various stages of work(Accepted, in-progress, blocked-by, done). 3. Means to track the progress of the work-item. 4. Means to the improve the process through methods described by the process.

_pmf_ 10y ago

> I don't get it. That's actually a very meta reply (like that joke about UDP).