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I'm from Sweden and generally I never tip anything for any service available - neither does the absolute majority of my countrymen - with the exception of being

I'm from Sweden and generally I never tip anything for any service available - neither does the absolute majority of my countrymen - with the exception of being on vacation in other countries or eating at some real fancy restaurant. I were in US a couple years ago and found it pretty emberrasing how people are expecting a tip. I understand that they're paid less and i've spoken with some of them and waitresses etc may make about $3/h+tip. It's not the customers job to see to it that the employees stay at their job - it's the companies. At the hotel bar we had some kind of happy hour where everything was free which of course made it a bit crowded so unless you held up a tip / bribe the bartender just ignored you. I understand that there are cultural differences but in my opinion you get a tip for a job well done - but it's ALWAYS optional and you should never feel obligated to give one.

aaronbrethorst 10y ago
Tips are often a major source of compensation for wait staff and other U.S. service providers. Employers often pay these employees lower wages in anticipation that tip income will provide a significant portion of the employees' income. Customers should realize that they are not auotmatically paying 'more' (due to tipping). In non-tipping countries, the tips are simply built into the price of the food. An advantage to tipping, therefore, is the ability to tip whatever is appropriate: if the service is poor, a small tip should be left, signaling to the server that their service was subpar. https://www.tripadvisor.com/Travel-g191-s606/United-States:Tipping.And.Etiquette.html https://www.tripadvisor.com/Travel-g191-s606/United-States:T...
- Shalle135 10y ago
  I understand that they count on it as salary, it's the same with the Uber drivers - they don't make enough so they depend on the tip. Either way it's not acceptable - if they can't support themselves on the wages they have they should demand higher wages from their employers who equally raise the cost of the product.
  - Moru 10y ago
    And pay tax for it as is the social contract for all other wages...
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Moru 10y ago
I'm also from sweden. Here we all pay 13.5% tip included in the price for restaurant food. This comes from a general tax of 8% that was put on all restaurant staff a long time ago because of expected tips. This was not seen as fair because not everyone gets a share of that tip. So now we pay our staff more, we pay a decent price directly and the tip we pay to the staff (if we do) is expected to be payed tax for at the end of the year. I doubt this part happens though, not many knows they are supposed to pay tax for it. Younger waiters however seems not to know about this general tip that is baked into the bill and expect another tip on top of that. Watching too many movies from USA I guess :-)

aaronbrethorst 10y ago

Tips are often a major source of compensation for wait staff and other U.S. service providers. Employers often pay these employees lower wages in anticipation that tip income will provide a significant portion of the employees' income. Customers should realize that they are not auotmatically paying 'more' (due to tipping). In non-tipping countries, the tips are simply built into the price of the food. An advantage to tipping, therefore, is the ability to tip whatever is appropriate: if the service is poor, a small tip should be left, signaling to the server that their service was subpar. https://www.tripadvisor.com/Travel-g191-s606/United-States:Tipping.And.Etiquette.html https://www.tripadvisor.com/Travel-g191-s606/United-States:T...

Shalle135 10y ago
I understand that they count on it as salary, it's the same with the Uber drivers - they don't make enough so they depend on the tip. Either way it's not acceptable - if they can't support themselves on the wages they have they should demand higher wages from their employers who equally raise the cost of the product.
- Moru 10y ago
  And pay tax for it as is the social contract for all other wages...
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Moru 10y ago

I'm also from sweden. Here we all pay 13.5% tip included in the price for restaurant food. This comes from a general tax of 8% that was put on all restaurant staff a long time ago because of expected tips. This was not seen as fair because not everyone gets a share of that tip. So now we pay our staff more, we pay a decent price directly and the tip we pay to the staff (if we do) is expected to be payed tax for at the end of the year. I doubt this part happens though, not many knows they are supposed to pay tax for it. Younger waiters however seems not to know about this general tip that is baked into the bill and expect another tip on top of that. Watching too many movies from USA I guess :-)